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Stephen A. Smith hating on Jeremy Lin again.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Geronimo, Mar 16, 2013.

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  1. AustinPowers

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    Skip Bayless is correct.
    The truth is, if Lin was a black player he would warrant more hype within the 'BLACK' communities. There! I said it... :grin:
     
  2. Joe Joe

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    and would be completely unknown by most of Asian community.
     
  3. Pukimonster

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    SAS called out Floyd Mayweather on ESPN LA last year for what he said about Lin, calling him stupid and immature

    The guy's not racist. He's a Lin hater, he's a NY homer, he's annoying and doesn't know what he's talking about half the time, but the guy's not out there plotting against Asians. And as far as hating goes, Isola is a lot worse.
     
  4. AustinPowers

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    Probably correct too.
    But since we dealt with having Yao, we Texans are better than that. ;)
     
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    I think SAS should go into ministry where he can take the pulpit and say anything he wants to. I just enjoy how he says what he says, even though I disagree with most of what he says. I think if Lin was not an Asian-American, he definitely would not be as famous, but on the other hand, if Lin was Afro-American (or White), he would definitely get more respect than he does now. He's a good young player who is improving.
     
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    Man, we are all racist to some degree, but I think Lin is gradually getting respect from most players he played against.
     
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    I agree with most of what you said. I thought people listened to ESPN for entertainment, not for insights or accuracy.
     
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    At the end of the year take a look at Lin's numbers in comparison to Lowry and Brooks when they were here. Then think about the difference in hype. That's probably an example that's brought up. In my opinion Lin is good but the jury is still out on how good he could be.
     
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    Man, if an Afro-American player graduated from Harvard and played this well in NBA as Lin, the Afro-American community (most of the so-called leaders anyway) will probably talk about him ad nauseum as a great role model. Anyway, it may be a minority viewpoint, but I like Lin because he keeps on trying hard and improving.
     
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    Since Lin is the only Asian-American player in NBA, I am sure he will be known within the Asian-American community even if he sucked, not that he sucks.
     
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    The guy definitely sets a great example. His stats aren't bad. We are winning games. There are moments when you see glimpses of pure genius in his game. If he would be more aggressive and decisive in his shot taking I think his game would improve dramatically. Smith needs to stop hating and give the kid some time to develop in the NBA.
     
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    here is the thing about JL--regardless of the reasons, he's had to prove 10x what someone who wasn't asian has had to prove only once. he'll always have doubters and MANY of those doubters doubt based on race whether they admit to it or not. they're all over these forums and all over SAS's rants. his rants on espn new york radio are waaaaay more over the top racist than his controlled reserved self on tv. he's a rob parker protege.

    JL is legit. yes, he is overrated by overzealous asian fans, but he is also underrated by haters who doubt his ability because he is not black. those two things are facts.
     
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    truth
     
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    Face palm.
     
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    Rather than having doubters, I think Lin has a whole group of people who would prefer not to see him succeed.

    At this point, I don't think anyone can legitimately claim that Lin doesn't belong in the NBA. At worst, he'll be an average PG at the peak of his career and tail off after that. Some may argue that he'll never be a John Stockton, but that's a complete strawman argument because nobody has ever seriously tried to claim that Lin was going to be an all-time great PG.

    People don't like having their assumptions challenged because it tends to rock their worldview. There are undoubtedly many unchallenged assumptions about Asians in American society, and consciously or unconsciously, people have accepted them as truth. Even Asians themselves.

    But Lin represents a total repudiation of those assumptions. And unlike Yao, Lin is not a genetic anomaly but a person you could easily imagine being your classmate who just happens to be good at sports.

    I think a lot of people secretly derive a sense of comfort from thinking that an entire race of people are just somehow genetically physically inferior to them. This is not to say that they are racists, but much of our status and social confidence comes from measuring where we stand relative to our peers. So relegating Asian guys to the bottom of the totem pole in terms of desirable masculine qualities automatically gave everyone else a boost. Lin represents an overturning of that mindset, and that unsettles some people who have grown accustomed to the racial hierarchy in America.

    Just my thoughts.
     
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    Jlin7 will be just fine with all kinds SAS ( black, white, green, yellow, tan...), he'll make to all star few times at least. Yes, for sure!
     
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    Parker, Westbrook annihilate Lin?

    Lin vs Spurs 38-7
    Lin vs OKC 29-7-6

    Not to mention the "Lin gets the luxury of playing with Harden" argument is just r****ded...well how about Parker gets to play with the best PF of all time in Duncan and Westbrook plays with a guy named Kevin Durant. :rolleyes:
     
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