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Stephen A. Smith calls James Harden the heir apparent to Kobe Bryant

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RocketsTruth, Nov 28, 2017.

  1. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Contributing Member

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    Kobe never embraced D'Antoni or Morey style efficient ball
     
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    Garbage Mamba disagrees.
     
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    Last year he was averaging 9.2 this year 8.0.
    Yea that’s the average. But have you actually watch the games. Of course he will still get ft. Is not like the refs can swallow their whistles the whole game or that we have the same refs every game.

    You say the 2nd one behind Harden is just 22 freethrows away. Last year he was way ahead of anyone.


    2016-17—— 9.6
    2014-15——8.8
    2016-17——8.8
    2012-13——8.6

    This year 8.0

    I guess you are saying the other years he just got .8 of a free throw extra.


    LoL Ok
     
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    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    Can we sign an agreement as Clutchfans to never again start a thread based on something Stephen A Smith says?
     
  5. peleincubus

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    I was looking at free throws attempted. Which is a 1.6 difference, without doing the math I would think if you throw out the last game with 4 it would close 1.2 or so.

    Something also to take into consideration is there have been less close games so he is driving less at the end of games and mostly shooting 3’s which could bring it down a little.

    Overall if he can keep up his 3% and drive less (taking less punishment) & Paul can continue to take some of the pressure off. It all leads up to an MVP. And either they win the whole thing this year, or they lose to the Warriors and Lebron comes and the Rockets win back to back lol
     
  6. riko

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    The guy was giving out a compliment. There was no malice in his comments. Harden is by far the best combo guard of our generation. No one has had his play making prowess combined with his scoring ability.
     
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    Kobe was a better defender but Harden is a better all round offensive player. Better playmaker, much higher IQ, better at making others better and a more efficient scorer/3pt shooter.
     
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    Kobe is a better scorer than Harden. Don't @ me. This coming from a guy that does not rate Kobe very highly.

    Kobe in his prime have a lot more tools especially in the post. He was also quite a bit more athletic than Harden so he could finish in different ways.

    Harden is hindered by his athleticism, but he more than makes up for it with craftiness. If Harden had Kobe's athleticism he'd be the GOAT
     
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    this guy is biggest fraud to me on tv, can care less what he is saying
     
  11. riko

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    Not sure you watched Harden on the high post or the elbow with that jumpshot. It is automatic. Kobe probaly had a better footwork but Harden has a better turnaround jumpshot or the faceup shot.

    As for the scoring part, Kobe was a better volume scorer meaning a chucker who took more shots to get his points whilst Harden is more efficient and does it with less shots but at the sametime gets his teammates more involved and better.
     
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  12. ryano2009

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    Kobe was probably the best scorer game has ever seen, Harden is an all around player and he distributes the ball to his teammates and make them better, I know SAS was praising Harden but that was a dumb comparison.
     
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    Idk why you guys get all butthurt.

    The game was a lot different when Kobe played. They had a visual a few games ago about how if the 05-06 Phoenix Suns played in today’s NBA their posessions per game would be 28th in the league.

    That’s insane!!

    Kobe was one of the greatest of all time. There’s no need to diminish what one guy did to prop up another.

    Harden has put in some of the best regular seasons of all time. He needs the playoff success as top dog now.

    The comparison to Kobe is dumb though. Harden has the driving ability of a Lebron, coupled with the scoring ability of Kobe, above average 3 point shooting, elite foul drawing, and the efficiency of Durant. On top of that, he has the playmaking of a point guard with the size of a shooting guard. His defense still sucks though. But hey, you can’t have everything.

    Lastly I don’t know how anyone can say Kobe is the most overrated player of all time when Russell Westbrook has been staring you in the face the past 9 years.
     
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    lol, he also said that he’d trade Harden for Lillard this summer, thinks Josh Smith is still good because he scored an “easy 18 points” on 7-21 shooting against the Jazz in preseason while playing with his Chinese team, and wouldn’t want us to add Lebron to this team
     
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    That guy has been giving hot takes for years.

    Many years ago I used to read a lot of them from him:

    He thought Beverley was an amazing defender who “stopped” guys like Lillard (how’d that go in 2014) and Westbrook. Beverley’s defense was always overrated.

    He thought Hinkie was let go by the sixers for a “legitimate” reason, implying Hinkie isn’t responsible for the Sixers resurgence. Hinkie is solely responsible for the Sixers being relevant again.

    He also thought Morey’s basketball philosophy (which D’Antoni would go on to maximize and make look great years later) was bad. And that Morey was a bad GM as a result.

    I think the guy just hates analytics.
     
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    Lol. Nobody took me to school. Lebron's had more overrall "help" than any top 10 player this decade. When you look at both supporting cast, Wade, Bosh, Allen, then Kyrie & Love, it's not even a argument. Shaq was dominant but needed Kobe to close games. Lebron dominated thru 3 quarters but needed Wade, Kyrie & Ray Allen to take shots for him in crucial games. Kobe>Lebron. MJ agrees
     
  17. Daddy Long Legs

    Daddy Long Legs H- Town Harden

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    MJ sucks at talent evaluation. He was amazing at playing the game but not so good at talent evaluation.

    Two words: kwame brown
     
  18. fckbandwagons

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    oh here we go again:rolleyes:
     
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    These people love to make prediction without any data just like a lot of us. Now there's some information on that data sheet, people can gage it accordingly. The data has proven him and quite of few people wrong. Just like it's proven them wrong about the Westbrook, George and Melo trio.
     
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    That is not a myth. He does make the players around him better.
     

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