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Step back and think about this: Food stamp use climbs to new peak in Obama's America

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bigtexxx, Sep 4, 2012.

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dandorotik said: ↑

Told you guys! "Disgraceful levels of UE and record number..."

Absolutely no thought or analysis at all on BT's part- none. Those of us in the employment/careers field that study the UE, and its implications for our businesses, know the real deal based on our analysis.

BT is one of those we call a Partisan Artisan. He makes an art form out of bias and slant.
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did Obama sell our country on his economic plan back in 2008? yes or no?

I'll be the bigger man and not respond to your insults

#41 bigtexxx, Sep 4, 2012

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I know I'll get flamed for this logic, but one of the reasons I believe food stamp usage has increased is because Americans are no longer as "proud" to be independent. It used to be a common thread for the lower class workers not to take hand outs unless they REALLY needed them. With all the bail outs and the entitlement mentality, I believe some of the more prideful people who wouldn't take handouts are going to the government first instead of family or cutting back on the things they really don't need....or just taking them if they qualify. Why should a family cut back when we are giving billions to banks and GM?
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because food stamps were available in 1850 right. what a crock of crap

#42 pgabriel, Sep 4, 2012
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Trader_Jorge said: ↑

You nailed it right there. It's sad that the lower income classes in America (Obama voters in particular) have this entitlement mindset. Gimme my freebies! While it gives them a short term sugar high, it cripples their ability to rise out of poverty by incenting bad behavior. You or I might find it embarrassing to accept government handouts, but far too many people shamelessly accept them. Unfortunately, this President is encouraging and promoting this type of behavior, and taking our finances to the brink and mortgaging our future by funding it.
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Not an Obama fan (nor am I a fan of the GOP for that matter...dislike both parties equally), but the bailouts began under Bush.

#43 Blake, Sep 4, 2012
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Blake said: ↑

Not an Obama fan (nor am I a fan of the GOP for that matter...dislike both parties equally), but the bailouts began under Bush.
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Yes, but Bush also curbed government spending and balanced the budget. Oh, crap. That wasn't him.

Damn cut tax and spend big government conservatives!

#44 MrRoboto, Sep 4, 2012
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It's sad to see that the failed Republican policies that led us to the brink of financial disaster and income disparity has led to such a growing need for assistance.

It's disheartening that some here find the suffering of our neighbors as fodder for partisan propaganda.

It's encouraging to know that we have an administration that is committed to keeping the lives of the less fortunate from worsening, while bringing the country back from the GOP produced precipice.

Despite recent SNAP caseload growth, gaps in participation remain. Three in ten people eligible for SNAP go unserved. Implementing SNAP policies that improve program access, ensuring staff capacity to process applications, and mounting outreach campaigns to get the word out to the public can help communities maximize the federal recovery dollars available to help local families and businesses.

High rates of unemployment, underemployment, and poverty are contributing to great need. In 2011, nearly one in five Americans struggled with “food hardship,” according to a FRAC analysis of data collected through the Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index project. And many American workers are unemployed or underemployed. Indeed, the share of the US population receiving SNAP is similar to the percentage of the U.S. workforce experiencing unemployment or underemployment. Follow this link to an October 2010 to September 2011 state-by-state comparison of SNAP and unemployment/underemployment rates. In addition to responding to changes in economic need, in 2011 SNAP also has responded to temporary need driven by natural disasters.

SNAP Effect on Participants and Communities

For struggling families, SNAP is making a huge difference on their economic well-being and health. Reports from the U.S. Census Bureau and USDA’s Food and Nutrition Service (FNS) show that SNAP benefits lift people out of poverty. According to an FNS report, the five states where SNAP made the largest percentage point difference in lifting households above 101 percent of the poverty level were New York (33.5), Vermont (26), Rhode Island (25.1), Massachusetts (23), and Alaska (19.4). Follow this link to a FRAC state-by-state analysis of the SNAP effect on poverty.

A Children’s HealthWatch brief (pdf) documents health improvements for young children whose households received increased SNAP benefits provided under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA). Researchers compared samples of young children before the recession, before the SNAP benefit boost, and then during the two years following the ARRA SNAP benefit increase. Following the increase, “children in families receiving SNAP were significantly more likely to be classified as ‘well’ than young children whose families were eligible but did not receive SNAP.”

SNAP also matters for local economies. Based on USDA research, it is estimated that each one dollar in federally funded SNAP benefits generates $1.79 in economic activity.
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http://frac.org/reports-and-resources/snapfood-stamp-monthly-participation-data/

#45 Rashmon, Sep 4, 2012
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Trader_Jorge said: ↑

You nailed it right there. It's sad that the lower income classes in America (Obama voters in particular) have this entitlement mindset. Gimme my freebies! While it gives them a short term sugar high, it cripples their ability to rise out of poverty by incenting bad behavior. You or I might find it embarrassing to accept government handouts, but far too many people shamelessly accept them. Unfortunately, this President is encouraging and promoting this type of behavior, and taking our finances to the brink and mortgaging our future by funding it.
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Food stamps account for about 1.9% of federal spending. Are you really claiming that it is this spending that is bankrupting us?

Defense spending is 24% of federal spending, which is going to get us back in the black faster, cutting food stamps or cutting defense spending? Simple math that even you should be able to do.

#46 GladiatoRowdy, Sep 4, 2012
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bigtexxx said: ↑

did Obama sell our country on his economic plan back in 2008? yes or no?

I'll be the bigger man and not respond to your insults
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Umm, you do frequently engage in little to no thought or analysis. And you're biased. Umm, that wouldn't be an insult. Those would be facts.

Yes, Obama came to us with an economic plan. Is the economy better since the end of the Bush Recession? Yes.

Is it as good as it could be? No. But, then again, UE went up from 2000 to 2004, and I voted for Bush despite this.

BTW, when you start at 8.3% UE like Obama did, and it rises to 10% within 9 months, you're not going to bring it down by more than 2 percentage points. Again, the rate of decrease from peak to July of the 4th year- Obama 1 is #3 among all presidents since 1980, bested only by Reagan and Clinton.

Now, are you asking me if I'm going to vote against Obama because isn't 7.5% (that would be the biggest decrease, 2.5%, since the Great Depression, and it happened under Truman). Well, first, it's not November. It's September. And I don't know what the UE is for August yet. I'm not going to base a non-vote for Obama on .5%. Because I also support gay marriage (really, who gives a **** if two adults want to get married??), abortion, and other liberal causes (as well as deficit reduction strategies, the right to bear arms, and capital punishment), it'd take more than that. I voted for Bush in 2004 and the UE increased.

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#48 SamFisher, Sep 4, 2012
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46.7 MILLION people in the US using food stamps. Over 15% of the US population. Fifteen percent! That is a national disgrace. I guess that's what happens when you expand social services and maintain unemployment above 8% for record lengths of time. There is no denying that Obama has failed miserably on the economy.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...-to-record-46-7-million-in-june-u-s-says.html

Food-Stamp Use Climbs to Record, Reviving Campaign Issue
By Alan Bjerga - Sep 4, 2012 9:34 AM CT

Food-stamp use reached a record 46.7 million in June, the government said, as Democrats prepare to nominate President Barack Obama for a second term with the economy as a chief issue in the campaign.

Participation was up 0.4 percent from May and 3.3 percent higher than a year earlier and has remained greater than 46 million all year as the unemployment rate stayed higher than 8 percent. New jobless numbers will be released Sept. 7.

“Unemployment is stubbornly stuck,” making it difficult to significantly reduce the number of food-stamp recipients, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack said in an interview last month. “While people are going back to work, and there are jobs being added, they aren’t being added at a clip that is as robust as anybody wants.”

Food-stamp spending, which has more than doubled in four years to a record $75.7 billion in the fiscal year ended Sept. 30, 2011, is the USDA’s biggest annual expense. Republicans in Congress have criticized the cost of the program, and the House budget plan approved in April sponsored by Representative Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, the party’s vice-presidential nominee, would cut expenses by $33 billion over 10 years.
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Reductions to the program have also emerged as a point of contention in debate over a farm bill to replace current law that expires Sept. 30. The U.S. Senate in June passed a plan that would lower expenditures by $4 billion over 10 years, while the House Agriculture Committee the following month backed a $16 billion cut.

Today’s report shows California with the most recipients, 4.012 million, a 0.8 percent gain from the previous month and 7.3 percent more than the previous year. Texas had the second- highest number of recipients, while down 0.4 percent from the previous month and 1.4 percent lower than a year earlier.

Louisiana and North Carolina, where Democrats are convening this week to renominate Obama, had the biggest monthly gains in enrollment, 1.3 percent. Enrollment fell the most in Utah, down 1.4 percent from May, followed by Idaho and Ohio.

Spending on what’s officially called the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program totaled $6.21 billion in June, 0.4 percent higher than the previous month and 2.8 percent more than a year earlier. The record is $6.26 billion spent in September 2011.
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Clears throat* http://beforeitsnews.com/economy/20...-today-the-results-are-startling-2449770.html

hate to tell you this but the president has little control over the economy...

#49 dachuda86, Sep 4, 2012
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Clears throat* http://beforeitsnews.com/economy/20...-today-the-results-are-startling-2449770.html

hate to tell you this but the president has little control over the economy...
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lol so now that's your excuse?

Then why did he pitch us his economic plan in 2008?

hmm.....

#50 bigtexxx, Sep 4, 2012
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lol so now that's your excuse?

Then why did he pitch us his economic plan in 2008?

hmm.....
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Why do you sit around and wait for the government to help you out? You just need to work a little harder and good things will come to you.

#51 MrRoboto, Sep 4, 2012
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basso said: ↑

food stamps = code for "poor"
poor = code for "black"
black = Rayciss
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Once again, the first race card dropped is from the right ...as usual.

#52 krosfyah, Sep 4, 2012
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bigtexxx, i find it pretty amazing that you made it into the top 1% and yet you have no idea what the word correlation means...

#53 Baba Booey, Sep 4, 2012

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dandorotik said: ↑

1. Population- much, much higher than during the Reagan era. Otherwise, food stamp recipients would have easily been as high as now, particularly at the end of 1982 when UE was at 10.8%
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Nope. Not even close. About a 40% increase from 1982

As a percent of the population:

Or there is this one which emphasizes how bad things have gotten recently

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I believe qualifications for stamps have changed since the recession. This may have be done in order to allow unemployed persons who have not "spent down" their savings to recieve food-stamps before they qualify for unemployment.

#55 Cohete Rojo, Sep 4, 2012
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I've been on food stamps, it's depressing and terrible...but I was working less than 30 hours a week as a retail "assistant manager" and the girl I was living with deserved 3 square meals a day.

I just can't make my heart hard enough to be mad at people for wanting to have enough to eat.

You want to blame Obama tell the Republicans in congress to take a time out from introducing yet another repeal Obamacare/abortion/or gay marriage bill they know they don't have the votes for and work with the President and if it doesn't work by all means blame Obama. I am just sick of people selling the country down the river to manipulate elections.
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That maybe the best thing wrote in this thread thank you sir.

#56 edwardc, Sep 4, 2012
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Baba Booey said: ↑

bigtexxx, i find it pretty amazing that you made it into the top 1% and yet you have no idea what the word correlation means...
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makes ya wonder huh?

#57 Sweet Lou 4 2, Sep 4, 2012
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Nope. Not even close. About a 40% increase from 1982

As a percent of the population:

Or there is this one which emphasizes how bad things have gotten recently

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See, BigTexx? This is how you prove your points- with facts. Very good points, Tallanvor.

#58 dandorotik, Sep 4, 2012

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List of previous record holders:

Bush II
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#59 SamFisher, Sep 4, 2012
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The wealthiest people in the nation destroyed our economy but never had to worry about their own bills ... and now more regular people need food stamps.

This doesn't have much to do with Obama, and everything to do with the people who truly started all this **** for everyone except themselves.

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