[Stein] Rockets Latest DMo offer "multiyear starts at a fully guaranteed $7m in Yr 1"

How many of those "huge weapon" hookshots did he hit the in GSW series?

 

He got JBB'd for most of the playoff series. The one game he got starter's minutes he had 14 points 13 rebounds.....and it was the one game the Rockets won. Then he got JBB'd some more.

 

Checking the game logs...

Game 1: 8 points, 2 rebs, 3 turnovers, 2 fouls in 12 minutes.

Game 2: Started. 15 minutes, 3-10 shooting, 7 points, 3 rebs, 2 turnovers, 2 fouls.

Game 3: Started. 31 minutes, 5-11 shooting, 14 points, 13 rebs, 3 turnovers, 4 fouls.

Game 4: Started. 25 minutes, 3-6 shooting, 8 points, 4 rebs, 4 turnovers, 2 fouls.

Game 5: Started. 14 minutes, 3-7 shooting, 7 points, 4 rebs, 0 turnovers, 1 foul.

So I think he could have had some more minutes in Game 5, but that was a huge blowout loss anyway so it doesn't matter. Otherwise, I don't see his play really demanding any more minutes than he actually got.

DMo wasn't exactly robbed of minutes he was earning*. So I still wonder how many of his field goals were those "huge weapon" hook shots, because they clearly were not a huge weapon for him or the Rockets in that series.

Plus, on a related note, hasn't the old "the game slows down in the playoffs" narrative been proven false? I thought it had. Maybe not.

*I am not forgetting that the team as a whole was overmatched in the series; I know it was not just DMo. Still, the point remains, DMo's play didn't earn him more minutes.

 

I agree that you don't see it.

 

DMo should've been given more minutes and post opportunities simply because he had a 6 inch height advantage over Draymond Green. He was arguably the biggest mismatch in our favor, and JBB squandered it.

 

I'll bite, let's say he did get JBB'd. Why isn't anyone else seeing what you see? Why are his offers basically Europe and weak deals from the Rockets? Look, at this point I'm not even sure the Rockets would match a deal better than what was described as on the table. Not a single team wants to pay the guy. I like DMo, a lot, he seems level headed and smart. It's not enough to ensure him a deal.

I liken it to Linsanity. We already made that mistake once, and to be fair, we still haven't even had a DMosanity yet. We are fighting about the possibility of it.

 

It was tried. DMo posted up Green several times and got outmuscled. I thought he would be more effective because I've seen him dominate Faried who is of similar height to Green, but it just wasn't happening. To be fair, very few things were working in that series.

 

Not really, and I don't remember DMo getting outmuscled at all. I remember him creating good looks for himself but missing the shot.

 

Right now his market value is artificially low due to the Pistons getting cold feet and revoking the trade. Morey is taking advantage of that and trying to get DMo to sign a contract that is not really in his best interest and he's holding out for better. When you say that "no one else" sees what I see, that's not really true, D'Antoni sees it too, hell I'd bet Morey does as well to some extent. For sure if Morey thought about DMo like some here do then he wouldn't have even offered the QO.

So long as the Rockets keep winning doing what they are doing then I'm on board with lowballing DMo, but if guys like Anderson and Nene go down like they always do to injury and the team starts struggling IMO you have to up the offer to DMo and get him with the team.

Also, just so we're clear, I'm not talking DMo up as if he's some kind of star or anything. He's very valuable depth at the 4 and 5 and a solid rotation player. Personally I think giving him 30 mil over 3 years is a much less risky idea than paying Ryan Anderson 80 mil....but that's a different story.

 

At the end of the day, whoever is advising him totally screwed DMo over. A $7 million dollar contract to play this year for a potential to earn more money next summer will always be better than a $0 contract to not play this year for a potential to earn crap next summer.

 

Donuts is missing the boat. The team is coming together and winning games without him. His idiot representation and concerns about his health (the cancelled Detroit trade has to burn) are costing him money. Unless the guy gets on the court and proves he's healthy, he's going to be watching a lot of NBA games... on TV.

 

And I accept your apology.

 

Creating a good look for himself but missing the shot is the new boxing out but not getting the rebound.

 

Props to you for actually backing up your stance with facts. Bobbythegreat will always blame the other guy when it comes to Dmo. Bwhahaha at he got JBB'd instead of saying it was also Dmo who robbed himself of minutes.

 

A two year deal worth 15 million (7 in the first year and 8 the following) is not a weak deal. Especially after missing the amount of time that he did. And his in and out of the lineup once he was back with the Rockets. So actually on the grand scheme of things, that was one helluva contract for Dmo. A average role player at best.

 

Dmo is so polarizing. You gotta love it.

 

See, you and I have a difference in term of what value means. It's like when people bring items to Pawn Stars. Your item could be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, but at the end of the day the value is based on how much a person would pay for it. I don't think his value is artificially down, I think that's what it is. I think Morey isn't low balling DMo at all here, I think his value is just low. You're right in the sense that if we are hit with injuries his value to us rises, but I think DMo (and most likely his agent BJ) doesn't know what he's worth. It sucks for him and TJ, in thinking they would go for max deals this summer only to have the carpet ripped out from under them.

I think TJ is doing the right thing here, taking a risk but betting on himself to try and score a better deal. DMo on the other hand is playing the what if game with the rockets, hoping that he lives up to some idea of a potential. It's not like we are talking about a player that used to be an elite athlete trying to get back to the pinnacle (like Derrick Rose, albeit Rose is a far sadder case). We are talking about a guy who supposedly hasn't even reached his ceiling yet, paying him toward what his best projection could be. Like I said earlier, if another team offers him more, I don't see us matching passed the deal Stein reported.

 

Oh I agree with you, that's why I said anything higher than what was projected that they offered would not be matched. They aren't low balling him, they aren't high balling him, they are just giving him fair market value IMO.

 

Absolutely right. Who cares about good looks at the basket? It's much better to rely on nonstop, contested hero-ball and get embarrassingly beaten.

 

Only idiots didn't think Harden was elite. You could see it in OKC before he was a Rocket.

(Leading the Thunder in scoring the the 4th quarter)