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[Stein] Rockets Latest DMo offer "multiyear starts at a fully guaranteed $7m in Yr 1"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by heypartner, Nov 4, 2016.

  1. malakas

    malakas Member

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    Stuff like that is what makes me the most angry .
    It shows a complete lack of respect to your readers and no journalistic ethics.
    Honestly Watkins and Stein must think that whoever reads them is stupid.
     
  2. Htownballer38

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    Do not mention Dmo and rebounding together, Dude was horrible. And Dmo's 5 points per is no way better than what Anderson is given us.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    On a minute to minute basis, DMo scored more and rebounded more last year than Ryan Anderson has thus far. Sorry, that's just the facts. It's not an argument for one player over the other, it's explaining how poorly Ryan Anderson has performed thus far this season.
     
  4. Batman Jones

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    Yes, after he'd had four years with us. Ryno's on a new team in a new system and I'm not disappointed in his progress. He will be great for us when he's more acclimated and his shots are falling. He's a proven offensive player and a Nowitski-like shooter that can make from anywhere on the floor. He'll only get better. He's only had 16 games with the team so far and they're all learning new offensive and defensive schemes. D-Mo had four years. During those four years, we openly coveted Anderson. We did not have a starting PF between Jones and Motiejunas. They were both too inconsistent. That's why we needed Josh Smith but everyone knew he wasn't the answer either.

    If D-Mo truly felt "betrayed" or "hurt" by the Rockets signing a starting 4 that shoots lights out from 3, he should see a therapist about that, because it is utterly irrational.
     
  5. hongxingli

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    Bobby, one thing Anderson doing great is that he stays 30 feet away in offense, which keeps lane wide open for Harden, Dmo's three is decent, but not at Anderson's distance - he often launch three around 27 feet.
     
  6. Htownballer38

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    That is not a fact last year when Dmo came back, he was barely shooting 30% from 3. Anderson is shooting very close to 40%. Anderson is averaging around 7 rebounds and game while Dmo was averaging around 3. This offense is much better than what it was with DMo in and out of the lineup. So please stop it dude.
     
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  7. Htownballer38

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    And who in the hell try to use a minute to minute stat. Dmo barely got any freaking minutes consistently. One minute he was playing 20 minutes then the next game 6 minutes. So you can not use that nonsense when trying to compare him and Anderson.

    I tell you these Dmo only fans are off the chains. Hold up let me rephrase that, " Dmo's greatest fan Bobbythegreat is off the chains.
     
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  8. Bobbythegreat

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    That's all fair, and I'm not trying to say Anderson is worthless, I'm just saying that he's crazy overpaid for a 3 point specialist. I honestly think we could get most of what he provides from Wiltjer. It's really not a DMo vs ____ scenario.
     
  9. Batman Jones

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    QFT. But that doesn't mean I don't think it wouldn't be better with D-Mo as a major rotation player (assuming he's healthy). I would LOVE for D-Mo to come back and contribute and earn himself a fat contract in the summer from playing well. For us.

    I'm a big D-Mo fan. I want him back. In addition to everything else I've said on the topic (I really do find his/BJ's behavior bewildering) I wanted to make sure to say this too.

    I've never been down on D-Mo, the player. I've always been in his corner and I love having him as a Rocket. I just wish he'd frigging sign already.
     
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  10. Batman Jones

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    That's so true and it's really remarkable you'd say it, given all your past posts.

    If D-Mo resigns with us and is healthy he will earn his 30+ minutes because he will be a great addition. Nobody is out to get him. Nobody wants him to fail. We've invested a lot in him as a team. We want him to sign here and be great. And get paid for being great as soon as next summer. But he has to sign first and he has to play first. There are too many unknowns about his game right now.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    I agree completely with all of that actually. I was just trying to point out that when I say Anderson is overpaid and is under performing, it's not in any way related to the fact that I'd prefer DMo be signed as opposed to the situation as it is now. I don't want Anderson to fail either, I'd really like it if he stepped up his game and earned that 80 million dollar contract. His 3 point shooting has been adequate, I've said that I want him above 40% and he's exactly at 40% right now. I just wish that he'd pick up a few other areas of his game that have been not so great like defense and his shooting elsewhere. I mean, a 40% 3 point shooter only having a TS% of .516 is REALLY bad. To put that in context, it's the 11th worst on the Rockets.
     
  12. Batman Jones

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    If you agree with all of it, what's your opinion on why he hasn't signed?
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    I think he's upset about how much Anderson got and how little guarantee they are giving him. It's possible he's getting bad advice from his agent too. I think he's hoping that if he holds out long enough he'll get more than one year guaranteed.
     
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    His rep team and him shot down a good chance to help the Rockets this year. Yeah....
     
  15. Htownballer38

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    I'm a fan of the Rockets and when a player acts bigger than the team, I have a problem with that Batman. Clearly dude is upset because no other offered him nothing. The Rockets gave him a reasonable offer and you want to play hard ball. It's not like he deserves a much higher salary. He hasn't earned it yet, so Dmo needs to set aside his pride and prove his worth. Not only that, go and take back your starting spot instead of complaining about what your role will be.

    I agree, he would be a solid rotational contributor on this team. Especially when healthy. I also likes his game, his low post scoring would be welcomed in MDA offense. His nifty passing skills would open up this offense even more.

    My biggest thing is dude should have signed that deal and proved himself. Instead trying to play hard ball.
     
  16. kingkingston

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    D Mo will not get 30 minutes a game anywhere, he is being a sook and taking the NBA for granted by over rating himself coming off injuries
     
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    Have to say that I agree with this even as a DMo fan. Donatas is a serious liability on the boards and would rely on playing with another true big. On offense he would need to play the 5 in order to be used correctly as well, and we are just better with Capela, and Nene.

    If folks like Hollic or Bobby don't understand why playing Ryno, Dekker, or Ariza at the 4 is better for the offense than going with 2 bigs than I don't know what to tell you. There is this whole thing called spacing in the NBA, and it's a big reason why Harden and Capela are having the career years they are having respectively.

    DMo can hit a three every once in awhile yes... but his game isn't to launch 3's non stop nor should it be. And most importantly, teams won't guard his as the threat they guard the other three guys which will hinge the Rockets offense on DMo making teams pay by launching 3's the way Ariza did to the Kings the other night.

    As a DMo fan I want him back but I realize that he is a 5 on this team, and he likely will not get many minutes unless of Injury to Nene or Capela. And even then if that does happen I realize the major flaw that comes with that which is his allergic reaction to blocking out and rebounding the basketball.
     
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  18. JoeBarelyCares

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    At least if we sign him now, it will be to keep him, not to trade him at a later date.
     
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    Just to be clear dobro, I have consistently pointed out the fact that MDA likes to play with only one big for large portions of the game. And I have consistently stated that as soon as we agreed to a contract with Anderson that it most likely spelled the end of DMo as a Rocket because there wasn't going to be enough minutes for him.

    On another note I am neither a huge DMo fan nor am I a DMo hater. I do like DMo's talent. But I'm unsure of his fit in this offense and in the Association at this time. I personally believe DMo is best served playing the 4 alongside a great defensive and rebounding center (to compensate for some of his defensive deficiencies) in an offense that incorporates in his skills as a playmaker in the triple threat in the post while also using him to catch and shot from 3. I believe he is a highly skilled offensive player who skills may never be able to be fully exploited in our system. With Anderson here his opportunities are even more limited.

    In the not opinion section, Anderson/DMo are trade chips still. Anderson can't be traded until Dec. 15th, but he could be gone if the right deal comes along. DMo can no longer be signed-and-traded, nor signed and later traded but freeing him from restricted free agency could be something that happens as a result of another trade. Rockets are going to try to deal Brewer before Christmas. And renouncing DMo could come into consideration with the completion of a Brewer trade.

    I expect that at the trade deadline either one or possibly both of Anderson/DMo are no longer Rockets property.
     
  20. dmoneybangbang

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    Remember, before the offseason we didn't know how well Capela would play. I am pretty confident in saying that Morey intended for Nene to be the backup to Capela and DMo. I never saw minutes being the problem for DMo due to his versatility and passing.
     

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