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[Stein] Rockets Latest DMo offer "multiyear starts at a fully guaranteed $7m in Yr 1"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by heypartner, Nov 4, 2016.

  1. ricardo1979

    ricardo1979 Member

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    Not really. It would be Capela the most to lose. I think despite Capela's shotblocking prowess he is a very weak positional defender and defender in general with very little post game to speak of.Those are all the things Dmo thrives on.Capela will still start because of his ability to play the pick and rol with Harden but I can see Dmo playing more minutes and even finishing games. With Dmo , Anderson, Ariza ,Harden and either Gordon or Bev you have a team that can stretch the floor at all spots. This allows Harden to be creative at will.
     
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    DMo has never scored as efficiently as Capela. The Ringer had a blurb about Harden and Capela beating out Chris Paul/DeAndre Jordan in lobs for best in the NBA. DMo's "positional defense" is based on a season where the Rockets as a team were top 10 defensively. Maybe he's as good as people say, maybe it's just a by-product of a season where the team bought into team defense.

    I don't want to get into a DMO vs Capela debate but I just feel DMo won't get minutes at the expense of Capela.
     
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  3. Kiddsir

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    In MDA system. If Dmo plays for us, Harden will get more than 15assists in avg.
     
  4. Kiddsir

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    DMo wants out but Morey wants to leverage his profit margin.
    So it's another typical Morey move. We will see the outcome in 2017 Fed.
     
  5. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    DMo just competing for minutes, being in practice keeping the rotation on its toes is worth having. Will cost us 0 cap space next summer, will not send us into luxury tax this season, we don't have to lose anyone valuable to do it.

    I think Nen might lose the minutes. Capela will keep starting because he's improving and we are developing him. Nene and DMo both have injury worries so it doesn't hurt to keep them fresh and competing with each other till the playoffs.

    My personal opinion is that if we sign him, by the end of the season DMo will be a better big than any player has been so far this season.
     
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    He was awful last year in the post. much worse than Dwight on PPP. i know he was coming back from injury, but isnt that still the case??
    I cannot fathom how he gets any offer from the Rockets after Nov 23. It will simply be wait and see what anyone else offers.

    He would be a useful backup C to have around as a spacer. Float around the arc and play as a stretch 5. Defence isn't really our thing so he wouldn't hurt there.
     
  7. JayZ750

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    A typical Morley move?

    DMo is a restricted free agent. No other team has made him an offer. The Rockets aren't dying without him but smartly don't want to throw ridiculous money his way. This isn't a DMo move, it's an any GM move.
     
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  8. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    This makes zero sense...
     
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    Donatas is waiting for the 23rd so he doesn't get traded. I would do the same.
     
  10. jim1961

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    Maybe its just me, but guys that hold out for more money, use deadlines to their advantage, cost the team and themselves valued integration time in the preseason, stay off the court where they could be helping the team and themselves, are guys I dont want.
     
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  11. heypartner

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    Yeah, but Morey is threatening to take the offer off the table, hence the phrase "unofficial deadline." Would you wait for a no-trade scenario, if it meant less money?

    This could be a bluff, or DMo could actually lose money by going for a "no-trade" clause for this year, as Morey re-adjusts offer to discount lost value in no-trade ability. DMo will have to make that up by playing in MDA's system, for maximized stats.

    The big question is will other teams step in after Nov 23rd to test Morey's will to match an offer, once he loses the trade asset value of DMo for this year. Theory could be that only then will DMo get an offer sheet, thus approach true market value. Plus, teams get something like a 25% discount by then for missed games (20 games will be played by first week of December).
     
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  12. chenjy9

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    Problem for D-Mo, is that the Rockets don't need him. We would rather have him than not him, but we certainly aren't desperate to get him back. D-Mo, on the other hand, needs the Rockets due to being a RFA if he wants to stay in the NBA seeing as how no other team are giving him offers or at least offers that he is willing to sign. Sure he can leave the NBA, but most players with pride/balls would rather play in basically the Olympus of basketball and if he ever tries to come back, the ball is STILL in the Rockets's court.
     
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    I agree. I just don't think given our main need is athleticism, speed & rebounding we should even be talking to DMo. There is no need for him at all given Nene is coming off the bench now. Nene is a better player than DMo and DMo's struggles in rebounding don't help him. The Rockets need Kenneth Faried type player with size
     
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    Are some of y'all re
    Oh I would most definitely disagree. D'Antoni prefers Dmo to Dekker, Harrell and Nene.
     
  15. glenadyll

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    I think D-Mo has potential to be a post-skinny Boris Diaw type of player for D'Antoni. He can run offensive sets out of the high post in a way that no other player on the roster can right now. Nene can shoot from the high post, Dekker is a better cutter, and Trez crashes harder on the pick and roll, but D-Mo has a vision from the top of the key that none of them can match. Even more than his post game, the way that he can read the floor from that spot on the court opens up new avenues for our offense. That is also a skill that doesn't disappear with athleticism or bad backs.
     
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    DMo SignO or go HomeO. See what I did there?
     
  17. hakeemthagreat

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    I seriously doubt this
     
  18. ThatBoyNick

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    We need Dmo's excellent box out, hope he signs soon.
     
  19. BimaThug

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    Not sure I follow this logic. Even if D-Mo signed an offer sheet back in July that the Rockets matched, he'd have veto rights over any trade (and couldn't be traded at all to the team that signed him to the offer sheet) for one year.
     
  20. heypartner

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    Yeah, I see what you're saying. Morey's matching criteria probably haven't and won't change from Summer to now.

    All I meant is for whatever reason the reports say the offer has a "deadline" due to trading ability reasons. If that's true, that means Morey will take something off the table, if the deadline passes, otherwise what's the point of a deadline if the offer continues as is. That might be a bluff, but it also might mean he's decided that his matching level might not be as high anymore, for whatever reason. So, teams might test his will to match at same numbers he would have matched in the Summer, while DMo is waiting to see what happens with the offer post-deadline.

    Hell, someone who wants DMo could simply add a trade kicker to 2nd yr (only) and get Morey to really struggle with matching ... like anyone here would..
     
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