So, what does everyone think of the reference to Boehner sweeping the floor in his dad's bar? I think it was a moving moment but do wonder if Obama (or his writer) put it in there in an effort to make Boehner cry. Not that they have a betting pool going or it's not sincere. Just seems like the kind of stuff makes it harder for Republicans, Boehner in particular, to come back and hit him hard-- they can still do whatever they want, but any effort to demonize Obama (as some sort of secret Kenyan socialist) would just look that much more ridiculous in light of the tone that Obama carries (and Obama would look more presidential by contrast).
If we are talking Apollo like programs we are talking in present dollars tens of billions. I really don't see how those can be funded especially if he is calling for a 5 year freeze on domestic spending.
WHT URE NO SUPERPATRIOT??!!! You DARE question almight country?! U nly allowd 2 badmouth muslim Prez with no brth certificat!!! Yu must be commie pinko spy sent to dstroy from wthin! Accept patriotic rhetoric as gospel or get the fudge out!!!!
Wasn't a great speech. I think it was a very political speech. Tried to be inspiring but honestly it fell short of that and raises more questions than it answers. Somewhat of a contradiction in increasing investment when we have a freeze on spending. And there's no way 10% of what he proposes will be passed. So it's all just rhetorical fluff and he knows it. I guess it's meant for the average gentry to feel good about him and his direction. That said, I don't think Paul's response was particularly good either. Back to platitudes and statements that conflict with nearly every analysis done to date on health care. Basically he gave a prepared speech and came across as sounding Jindhalesque. And finally, I think the republican / tea party SOCUS members boycotting the State of the Union was very troubling. They may not like the President or democrats, but by doing that it completely calls into question every ruling they make now. It will be viewed from a political lens. It seems the SCOTUS has been comprised as being impartial and is now what we all kinda knew along - just another political committee. It seems that the Health Care Law will indeed be overturned and ruled unconstitutional on a party line vote by the SCOTUS. Frankly, that's really depressing not because of HCR being overturned, but that we've lost trust in one of our most important institutions.
You're actually wrong. Being lazy has little to do with it. Eating junk has a lot to do with it. But better healthcare will, without a shadow of a doubt, make you live healthier all else equal. That's what better healthcare means really.
Here's the cliffs notes version of the speech (only 4 mins and no clapping senators)... link <iframe src="http://videos.nymag.com/embed/player/?content=5P44G6336C6904SJ&widget_type_cid=svp&title_height=24" width="416" height="315" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" allowtransparency="true"></iframe>
What? No it won't, it will just provide the services to deal with the problems related to their obesity, it will without a shadow of a doubt not make you live healthier. I have good health care, well I technically don't, but I did when I was in college, and I ate terribly, I am talking about fast food sometimes twice a day all week, occasionally. It isn't a deterrent.
If you have 100 people eating 2 burgers a day and no healthcare, and another 100 people eating 2 burgers a day with decent healthcare, Who is going to live longer? It won't make you eat better or exercise more, but when **** goes wrong, you will have a better chance of correcting problems. It's not a deterrent, but that is not the point. The point is having healthcare will most likely mean you will live a healthier life.
Dude, I'm trying to follow your argument, but there is no healthcare in the world that can rectify that mess. Live a healthier life? After that kind of a diet, you'll be lucky if your healthcare will SAVE your life!
I like Sarah's take: <object style="height: 390px; width: 640px"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/fc6cUmZ2Gxg?version=3"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/fc6cUmZ2Gxg?version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></object> Winning the Future, indeed. Spoiler
Ah, thanks! Didn't come back to this thread until me and the Mrs. watched the entire thing last night. I thought the content was strong, and I disagree with the Atlantic analysis which looked so fetching on previous pages of this thread. I haven't heard a CEO outline exactly how the competition is whipping his company's ass before, but maybe I don't listen to enough CEO's. As a scientist, I have to sit and wonder if I'll ever hear a president talk so directly to the importance of math and science education to the good of our country. I hope I hear it again, but I kind of doubt it. There was hardly anyone from either party clapping when he brought up these (critical) points. It looked like he was from Mars. I think Obama will have a really tough sell with further research spending, and science and math education spending, in the US. But he's completely right about what China is doing in education. I see this every day in the classroom, where I have a bunch of students from China and bunch of American students sitting side by side. He's also spot on about how we force the best and brightest immigrants to leave the US and go compete against us back home. One of the brightest students I've ever seen has just graduated, and all she wants to do is stay in the US and pursue more science training and a research career here. But we make it nearly impossible. You would not believe the paperwork (followed by a lot of luck) that a bright young kid has to do to stay here legally and pursue work that will greatly help our country. She's probably going to have to go back to China and kick our butt instead. It's really aggravating to watch. It's clearly much easier to come here illegally and stay if you have no education and have little to no chance for contributing to innovation. Wait, what? Yeah, that's the policy.
Whether or not I agree with what Obama says, it sure is damn nice to hear a President talking where you can tell he actually, moreso than just believing, understands what he is talking about again. I also lol'd when somebody clapped really hard when he mentioned facebook.
You are discounting things like preventive care and catching medical problems early that are far cheaper than emergency care. For example if type II diabetes is caught early on it is far cheaper and effective to treat it than if it is caught later on. The problem with our current system is that there are no incentives built in to catch problems like that early. If you have no health care you are unlikely to get regular screening test so you might have type II diabetes and not even realize it, and continue with your same lifestyle, until things get bad.
Agree, furthermore if the doctors notice a condition or risk factors connected with obesity they can then push the patient to do the needed exercise and monitor the results. That works far better than just hoping people do it on their own.
We could set up a system that allows people to see dietitians and personal trainers based off of tax revenues from cigarettes, alcohol, sodas and fast food. Throw a little tax on the things attributing to long term health problems and allow people to have access to professionals that can work with them in the near term to promote better lifestyles. A lot of money is being put into corporate wellness programs to help keep healthcare costs down as well as energy levels, productivity and employee satisfaction up. Let's do something a little bigger to help reverse some alarming trends in our society.
LOL!!! Is this the video where word salad sarah says the russians won the space race? Seems history and republican women don't mix very well
