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State of the Union Address

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by s land balla, Jan 25, 2011.

  1. DonnyMost

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    I don't have to refute facts. The WHO report is correct; the US is not the best at administering healthcare.
     
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    In accordance with your analogy that would be somewhat probably true, except you have to further add that X pizza delivery system is recognized as the best, and people of varying economic status find that they are served by X pizza the best.

    Keep in mind, we are the best in healthcare at 2 out of 5 indicators:

    3. overall level of health system responsiveness (a combination of patient satisfaction and how well the system acts);

    4. distribution of responsiveness within the population (how well people of varying economic status find that they are served by the health system);

    http://www.photius.com/rankings/who...alth_ranks.html

    Like I said, #37 overall is not ideal...and I want to improve that overall score but I am disinclined to acquience towards endangering our status as the best in the world regarding the two healthcare categories of responsiveness (which is described in the same above article as): (a) respect for persons (including dignity, confidentiality and autonomy of individuals and families to decide about their own health); and (b) client orientation (including prompt attention, access to social support networks during care, quality of basic amenities and choice of provider).
     
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    I am basing this on the WHO reports ...sigh...check out my links, tell me where I'm wrong...

    hint: you can't.....

    YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
     
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    Rand Paul sure curbstomped that one...
     
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    Post of the year. Too, too funny...
     
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    no amount of health care is going to make us live healthier or longer lives if Americans don't being fat and lazy and eating junk. Travel around the world you won't see as many gigantic fat people as they you do here.
     
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    not my cup of tea..
     
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    Hehe. Uncanny resemblance.
     
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    Obama's speach was okay. It didn't suck like some say on here but it also was not great. Just a standard safe speech. I think a certain few are so enamored with Obama that anything that comes out of his mouth is like God speaking (if you believe there is one).
     
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    Megan McArdle said that Obama's speech reminds her of how CEOs of companies which are not doing so well sound on earning calls: Can't really offer a real solution for the mess, and instead trying to stay positive because the negativity generated by talking about all the real probelms would simply cause more troubles.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/01/the-president-as-micromanager/70255/

    I had a similar impression. Obama sounded a bit like Jeff Van Gundy did in 05/06 in his "We have enough to win" interviews. The SOTU seems more of a "we can do it!" speech to keep up the morale of the country than an in depth discussion of the game plan out of the mid/long term deficit/debt mess. He referred to the commission's findings about entitlement programs but didn't committ to implementing its recommendations (some of which are bound to be highly unpopular).

    Ryan talked more frankly and directly about the deficit/debt problems, but he didn't exactly outline anything concrete, either, in the speech (though he obviously does have such a plan for substantially changing social security and medicare for those under 65).
     
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    Yep, forget any meaningful advancements like the Space Program was in the 60s, that America is dying/dead.

    Such is the quality of our legislature: too many hacks who have no idea how weak the foundations of this nation have become and too few legitimate and sincere politicians whose cries are drowned by those who only oppose for the sake of opposing, and not offering solutions that solely benefit those with deep pockets for lobbying and campaign financing.

    Sorry for the rant, had to vent after a business trip from Arkansas.
     
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    good analogy and good point
     
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    Maybe they should let the VP and the house speaker wear sunglasses during these events.
     
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    And can someone explain that glass....thingy...in front of Boehner.

    what the hell was that?
     
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    I thought he tied it in by saying that the investments would be paid for by the other cuts he was talking about. I thought the two were related.
     
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    A vial for his tears. They cure polio. It's why he cries so much.
     

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