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State Department Memo: '16 Words' Were False

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by mc mark, Apr 18, 2006.

  1. No Worries

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    Word on the Republican down low is that Wilson is OBL gay lover.
     
  2. basso

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    makes sense, wilson went out of his way recently to say that "at least he likes women", implying that his critics didn't. nice guy, your anti-hero.
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    Wrong. I already posted a refutation of that twice in other threads. MC MARK has now done the same. Wilson's report did not bolster the claims at all. There have been those that have tried to say it did, but Wilson himself mentions that it simply wasn't true. In fact he said something to the effect that it doesn't make any sense that at a meeting where it wasn't discussed it could be bolstered rather than refuted.
     
  4. basso

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    Wilson has contradicted himself many times, so i'm not sure i would rely on his word.
     
  5. vlaurelio

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    he can be a good president one day
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    He may have. Do you have any examples? Everything I have seen or read by him seems fairly consistent.
     
  7. RocketMan Tex

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    Pot, meet kettle. Nice shade of black.
     
  8. RocketMan Tex

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    Much better than the clown we have now.....
     
  9. GladiatoRowdy

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    Everything that I have seen that contradicts what Wilson has said, both publicly and in his reports, has come from the GOP attack machine. I have seen numerous interviews with him, read several articles he wrote, and in none of them were there any contradictions.

    I will repeat the request for you to cite the contradictions you are pushing.
     
  10. basso

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    is the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence a GOP attack machine?
     
  11. vlaurelio

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    afterall they're still politicians right
     
  12. Ubiquitin

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    Basso, I would greatly appreciate the citations. Thank You.
     
  13. basso

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    the most obvious one is the SSCI report, which has been cited numerous times before. i'll try and dig it up again, but i probably won't get to it for a while.
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    Hatch, Pat Roberts, and the others that came out and were misleading regarding Wilson's report effectively served as a GOP attack machine, whether that was their intent or not.

    Wilson in fact clears the record not only with his words on the issue, but with actual facts about what was and wasn't in the report.

    So if he has contradicted himself it wasn't in regards to any report before the Senate intelligence committee. The fact that certain members of the committee chose to portray Wilson as having contradicted himself, is too bad, but it doesn't make it true when facts don't back it up.
     
  15. mc mark

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    The SSCI report isn't worth the paper it’s written on. It's written by a republican majority committee headed by Pat Roberts (who to this day is still holding up an investigation into how Bush manipulated intelligence to justify the war) that white washed any real bipartisan investigation into the real reasons for the war or the intelligence used to justify the war. Of course basso will site it as the great "bipartisan" report that it is and the last word on any accountability by the administration. I would take anything sited by that report with a grain of salt the size of a deer lick.
     
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  16. FranchiseBlade

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    The body of the report itself would actually help to uphold Wilson's claims, and are consistent with his statements. The way the report was reported, and summarized by Pat Roberts and a few others was partisan, and their conclusion didn't match the facts that are in the body of the report.

    Please note the article above where Wilson lists the specific evidence that debunks the statements made about the SSCI report. The evidence that debunks Roberts statements come from the very report itself.
     
  17. basso

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    Directly from the report, page 444:

     
  18. basso

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    CARL LEVIN, Michigan
    DIANNE FEINSTEIN, California
    RON WYDEN, Oregon
    RICHARD J. DURBIN, Illinois
    EVAN BAYH, Indiana
    JOHN EDWARDS, North Carolina
    BARBARA MIKULSKI, Maryland

    GOP attack dogs all...
     
  19. FranchiseBlade

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    That page of the report isn't from the actual report dealing with evidence, but from the summary provided by Republicans Pat Roberts, Orin Hatch, and Christopher Bond.

    The evidence in the body of the report is what Wilson pointed out in his response.
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    Again the parts of the report that you have quoted weren't by any of the Senate members you listed above.

    They were from Republicans Pat Roberts, Orin Hatch, and Christopher Bond.

    Their part of the report covers pages 441 - 448.
     

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