7 of 9 has made an appearance! lol no i was having this debate with some co-workers and most of them thought i was geeky to give star trek the edge. and that was coming from star wars nerds.
A big problem is that the technology of Star Wars is never really well explained while Star Trek goes to pains explaining how their tech works so the limits of Star Wars technology isn't very clear. It seems like the ships of Star Wars are more advanced, able to travel much longer distances much faster. Even the smallest Star Wars fighters are able to travel between star systems almost anywhere in the galaxy while even the Federation's most advanced ships still take decades to cross a quadrant of the galaxy. One game changer though for the Star Trek is transporters and replicators. Star Wars seems to lack the matter energy conversion technology which could handicap them in a battle. It's not clear whether the shields in Star Wars could keep someone from beaming over but even if they did once the shields were knocked out on Star Wars ships it would be easy to beam troops over or a bomb. The Force would be a much bigger problem except that in Phantom Menace it was explained that the Force is actually caused by microorganisms. The medical technology of the Star Trek might be able to neutralize the Force. In a battle between the Star Wars versus Star Trek I think Trek wins but the Star Wars superior ships will allow them to run away beyond the reach of Star Fleet and also stage devastating hit and run attacks over a protracted war.
Star Trek has teleporters. . . "I got a lock on the JEdi's . . . let's see them use the force in open space" - Geordi Picard took on Q and Kirk killed Apollo Rocket River
Pretty confident star trek would win...but the real question is how many jedis are we talking about...cause if they have quite a few then "The Force" may shift the tide. I feel like I want to rewatch star wars and the star trek series and movie now....there goes another year of my life...lol
Huge fan of both, never read books so I guess I'm not ubernerd.. For my personal fav. Star Trek, just a better world imho, if Lucas didn't write the dialogue/direct in the prequels then it could have been much better... But in a "nerd war"... Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet, or even a whole system, is insignificant next to the power of the Force.
In hand to hand combat or with weapons I say Star Wars wins. The Force powers of a Jedi or dark side powers of the Sith would-be formidable not to mention light sabers are cooler than phasers. The only thing to somewhat compete is a Vulcan neck pinch or a mind meld with a Jedi. Star Wars does have the death star but Star Trek's trump card is teleportation. Just fly by and drop off a genesis device on board and say bye, but perhaps jammers can be secured on the black market from an unscrupulous ferengi arms dealer. Another unconventional "weapon" to use is a boatload of tribbles. However Star Wars has armies of disposable clones and droids and can swarm Star Trek's starships with T.I.E. fighters and x wings to wear down their shields nearly unchallenged since Star Trek relies more on larger ships. Send an R-2 unit to upload a virus and knock out their computers controlling life support and it's over. Another possible advantage for Trek is time travel. Since Star Wars takes place "a long time ago..." and Star Trek is in the future Star Wars could theoretically hold a technological advantage depending on when they meet but this is where time travel could come into play. If it's the future then maybe they have force powered ships or something.
Actually Star Fleet does use smaller fighters. <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/wwKnvRPIrl0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Well if you involve the q, then there wouldn't be much to discuss. I know what you mean about unpredictable- the q might just sit back & observe (& the borg would likely just go about their current business until interfered with), but you kind of have to work on the assumption that every character is participating, fighting on behalf of their respective franchise to the best of their ability, or else we don't have the hypothetical battle in the first place. Otherwise, if we're evaluating motivation in addition to fighting capability, it's not like we can really predict what anyone's going to do.
I'd go with Star Wars because they have that mind control stuff. Plus they'll just send an army of Jar Jars to annoy the whole star fleet into killing themselves.
I never saw anything in Star Wars that looked like the Cloaking device in Star Trek That could be an issue The Force is not infallable. . . Emperor proved that when he had all the Jedi shot in the back Rocket River
Star Trek's problem is that TNG and later were helmed by folks who lack... imagination. Star Trek weapons are measured in the megaton (as in, TNT) range, which makes them more "realistic" and comparable to nuclear weapons (though there were many many instances of ST shields being impervious to nuclear weaponry). Star Wars weapons are measured in the giga/teraton range, which ST ships have absolutely zero chance against. But who cares. They're both made up.
[nerd] As a shamelessly huge DS9 fan, I feel I need to point out two things: 1. You misspelled Sisko. 2. In the episode "Valiant" (season 6, episode 21), Jake Sisko ends up on a training mission ship with StarFleet's elite cadets. It is mentioned in passing that Commander Sisko is generally considered the best combat commander in the fleet (paraphrasing). Ergo, I submit to you that it makes no sense to say Picard would win a battle that Sisko couldn't, since StarFleet themselves say Sisko is a better combat commander. [/nerd]
