Finally a sensible take on this. Sometimes you see Delfino bring it up. You have JLin do it all the time and it's just trap him hard at the top and pressure him, forcing a turnover. With the fun run and gun style, you don't know which stud is coming at you.
His history in Minnesota was a joke. The reason he was forced to coach them was because he assembled that team and none of the coaches could win with the squad he put together- so he was forced to coach them and he sucked. McHale is a likable person and knows how to massage the egos of superstars since he was one (KG and Kevin Love think he's the ****) but as a coach, he is terrible. At calling plays, he sucks. There are no set plays or plays that look like something the coach called. Most of our points are fastbreak points, broken play points, or points pulled out of the air by Harden. Its not about isolating Harden, cos he can do anything with the ball no matter where he gets it- he can either pass, shoot or drive it into the paint. I doubt we have been watching the same games, or maybe we have- but our opinions differ
Article about the Rockets' December. I don't think we should read too much into it, but there are some interesting numbers. "•With Lin on the court, the Rockets averaged 106.2 points per 100 possessions, allowed 102.3 points per 100 possessions and shot 48.1% from the field. With Lin on the bench, Houston scored 105.7 points per 100 possessions, allowed 108.4 points per 100 possessions and shot 44.7% from the field. •With Lin and Harden on the court together, the Rockets averaged 106.8 points per 100 possessions, allowed 101.1 points per 100 possessions and Harden was a plus-54. With Lin on the bench and Harden on the court, Houston averaged 108.4 points per 100 possessions and allowed 110.2 points per 100 possessions and Harden was a minus-1." http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...eremy-lin-orlando-magic-lebron-james/1804549/
You are an idiot. "16 game sample size" intended to reach a predetermined outcome. I have a sample size of Douglas averaging 16.8 points and 6.8 assists for a stretch during his second year in the league. Get back to me when Jeremy Lin can make the 3-point shot consistently, because he's going to kill the Rockets' chances in the playoffs if he keeps shooting a miserable 27%.
I mean his defense not 3pt rate, and apparently his combinations have the rox lost the most pts per min. http://www.nba.com/statistics/plusminus/plusminus_sort.jsp?pcomb=1&season=22012&split=9&team=Rockets http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/teams/HOU.html
It's ok man, TD's frantic arm waving has convinced many people in the past that's he's a good defender...including Coach Sampson...It's kind of like a jedi mind trick
That data, which is not used by the NBA nor any credible sports website, does not consider how many times Jeremy has been pulled from a game when a match up with a quicker point guard has not looked favorable to him. In November and December, the coach was constantly throwing TD at those quicker scoring point guards. Therefore, it is not an accurate barometer in the case of Jeremy until such time as he demonstrates an ability to handle quick opposing point guards on a nightly basis, which thus far, he has not. Just to show how "credible" the formula is, the following guards have "worse" ratings than TD. Deron Williams Goran Dragic Shannon Brown Kevin Martin Darren Collison Mo Williams Randy Foye Gary Neal Patrick Mills Ramon Sessions Aaron Brooks Nate Robinson Marcus Thornton D.J. Augustin Raymond Felton The other link shows Carlos Delfino with the best +/- on the team and Chandler Parsons with one of the worst. I guess we should bench Parsons and start Delfino the defensive stopper.
It's not necessary to win a championship. He does keep the ball moving around. He's certainly not a selfish player. Phil Jackson always used TD style point guards and won 11 championships. John Paxson, BJ Armstrong, Steve Kerr, Brian Shaw and Derek Fisher. Yet TD, while fitting that mold, has more scoring capability than those point guards ever had. Moreover, 3 of the past 4 NBA championships have been won by lineups that featured a TD style PG, namely Mario Chalmers and Derek Fisher. Yet per minute, TD scores far more than Chalmers and Fisher during their championship seasons while averaging a comparable number of assists. Just for comparison sake on the Rockets, TD averages 16.0 points per 40 minutes (pace adjusted) and shoots 42% from three-point land, while Lin averages 13.9 points per 40 minutes (pace adjusted) while shooting 27% from three-point land. The latter will kill the Rockets in the playoffs, because Lin's regular season layups won't be available. In the past 25 years, the traditional and predictable PG attack has proven far less successful in terms of winning NBA championships than a more unpredictable attack featuring multiple ball handlers on the floor with the PG being one of them. On Miami, it was James, Wade and Chalmers. On the Lakers, it was Bryant, Odom and Fisher. On the old Bulls teams, it was Jordan, Pippen and one of Paxson/Armstrong/Kerr at PG.
The Rockets aren't contending for a championship this year. If the starting lineup had more talent IE. a superstar and two all stars, then TD could start. Right now, the Rox don't have that.
Good points... And if you have a point guard that can't shoot from the outside, defenses will just sag off of him and dont have to fight through screens and plus no good pick and roll big men (Like Amare and Chandler) So PnR can't be done as often. Hopefully Lin will find his outside range.
You made some great points, for the past decade non of the championship teams featured a PG as their best player( Tony Parker? No, it was Tim Duncan). We've seen great PGs failed over and over again in the playoffs. But that doesnt mean the Rockets formula won't work. Lin is not the best player on the team nor will he ever be. This team is also an unfinished product, Morey is still looking to upgrade the roster a.k.a finding a dominant PF and most importantly, our young core will most likely improve --- Asik learns to catch the ball, Harden starts playing D, Lin starts hitting 3pters. 30 games into the season we again have a winning team contending for a playoffs spot while being the youngest team in the NBA. I'm content and confident, the future is bright and I have no more complaints. Goodbye and good night.
I didn't see ALOT of Toney Douglas PG plays, there are some at times, and those plays made me SMH and cry. But to be honest, it's not that many, otherwise Rockets will lose miserably for sure.
In addition, since when are Kerr, Harper, Fisher etc. that Jackson used on his championship teams TD-type PGs? They are all SMART, opposite to what TD is, and much better 3pt shooter. Fisher of 10 years ago is 2x better than TD, even as a functional player.
Come on, Tony Parker won the finals MVP in '07. Jason Kidd ain't no slouch either. Cyclorider's claims are incredibly selective. He's obviously just trying to boost up TD. Great PG's do fine in the finals (e.g. Westbrook and Rondo last yr) they can't help that LBJ is a basketball machine.
What your perception of a set play is (probably predicated upon some basketball you played at some level in your life), is not the same as a pro offense. I know the throw ahead and toss back to go in to a high PnR isn't your idea of the crappy "4 out, 1 in" motion offense you ran as a kid, but I'll drop a bomb on ya: It's actually a play. To get even more crazy, I'll tell you that it's a play called by the players on the court, and not dictated by the coach's on the sideline. And then for the final mind blower I'll tell you that our coaching staff actually wants our guys to play like that and encourages the free sets off of pushes. You can read my posts in the official fire mchale thread if you want a more detailed version of this same discussion, but somehow I don't think that anyone with any amount of logic will change your mind, since your boot heels are dug in damn near the bedrock. P.S. we average 18.7 fast break points a game, and 105.8 overall. How do people actually contend that "most" of our points are off of that, James Harden, and broken plays? Do the people who say this crap actually think we get 60 points off broken plays, 26 points of James Harden just doing his own thing, and then 19 points off our fast break?
I seeing Harden and Lin play better together Harden is setting screens for the Lin now Also TD seems be be more effective as a spot up SG than a PG He does drive well on the fast break transition points but on the half court sets defers to Lin or Harden as he should
