Dion Glover: 3 - 11 (.273) Kevin Garnett: 5 - 19 (.263) Dirk Nowitzki: 5 - 19 (.263) Jerry Stackhouse: 5 - 20 (.250) Richard Hamilton: 3 - 12 (.250) Larry Hughes: 2 - 10 (.200) Morris Peterson: 2 - 10 (.200) Danny Fortson: 2 - 10 (.200) Erick Barkley: 1 - 7 (.143) Mookie Blaylock: 1 - 7 (.143) Lindsey Hunter: 1 - 8 (.125) Dana Barros: 1 - 10 (.100)
Bonzi Wells: 5 - 18 (.278) Shane Battier: 4 - 16 (.250) John Stockton: 3 - 12 (.250) Shandon Anderson: 3 - 13 (.231) Emanual Davis: 3 - 13 (.231) Pat Garrity: 2 - 9 (.222) Jerry Stackhouse: 2 - 9 (.222) Erick Strickland: 2 - 9 (.222) Latrell Sprewell: 2 - 12 (.167) Scott Williams: 1 - 8 (.125) Charlie Ward: 1 - 8 (.125) Damon Jones: 1 - 8 (.125) Dan Majerle: 1 - 9 (.111)
Jeff McGinnis: 4 - 15 (.267) Jason Kidd: 3 - 12 (.250) *Without checking, I'd say he easily is the "leader" as of now. Antonio Davis: 3 - 12 (.250) Chris Whitney: 2 - 9 (.222) Morris Peterson: 3 - 15 (.200) Alvin Williams: 1 - 9 (.111)
Clifford Robinson: 5 - 17 (.294) David Wesley: 5 - 17 (.294) Vince Carter: 6 - 21 (.286) Al Harrington: 3 - 11 (.273) Derek Anderson: 3 - 12 (.250) Sam Mack: 3 - 12 (.250) Jermaine O'Neal: 4 - 17 (.235) Wesley Person: 2 - 9 (.222) Kenny Anderson: 2 - 12 (.167) Lamond Murray: 1 - 12 (.083) HONORABLE MENTION: Allen Iverson: 9 - 30 (.300)
Kevin Garnett: 5 - 17 (.294) Ron Mercer: 5 - 17 (.294) Michael Jordan: 7 - 24 (.292) Baron Davis: 7 - 24 (.292) Hubert Davis: 4 - 14 (.286) Michael Curry: 3 - 11 (.273) Richard Hamilton: 5 - 19 (.263) Lorenzen Wright: 2 - 9 (.222) Lamond Murray: 4 - 19 (.211) Jason Terry: 3 - 15 (.200) Rod Strickland: 2 - 10 (.200) P.J. Brown: 1 - 7 (.143) Joe Johnson: 1 - 8 (.125) Anthony Carter: 1 - 8 (.125)
I have been LMAO about this thread!! And people were up in arms about "The Top 100 Posters of the BBS"..heh Some of the quotes here have been priceless..I think that I may use one of them as my new sig. DREAMer: we all know that you along with TheFreak and ZRB love Olajuwon and can't come to closure that he's gone, but he is. It's time to give up the ghost. Like BGM said, Hakeem will never get the chance to shoot 17 times a game. Plus after another month, he will probably not get a chance to shoot one time a game because he will be on the injured list.
How can this thread be about Olajuwon, when he hasn't made the list yet? You did get the first half of your first sentence right though. It is obvious who was not merely an Olajuwon bandwagoner. I have come to "closure" about the Dream playing in Toronto. If you count the number of threads, I'd bet you'd find a higher percentage of threads started or statements regarding Hakeem started by members other than myself, ZRB, or TheFreak. What we do, and will continue to do, is to defend the name of Hakeem "The Dream" Olajuwon. I'm sure I've mentioned it before, but... my favorite player had always played for my favorite team. That is no longer true. It hurt me that Olajuwon decided to leave, and it hurt me that the Rockets decided to move away from Hakeem. I don't win either way. Now, my enjoyment of Hakeem no longer is as enjoyable, just as my enjoyment of the Houston Rockets is no longer as enjoyable. Hey, it's just like my separate Thanksgivings with my divorced parents, it's still enjoyable, just not as much. ---------------------- Allen Iverson: 7 - 24 (.292) Kerry Kittles: 3 - 11 (.273) Al Harrington: 3 - 12 (.250)
No offense here, DREAMer, but the fact that Hakeem was shooting about 43% or so about a week or 2 ago (I think he's pulled it up to about 45% now) and he still hasn't made this list tells you something about the list. Hakeem can go 1-for-4 and not make your list, yet if he did that every night, he'd be a 25% shooter. Hakeem can rarely make your list simply because he rarely takes more 7 or 8 shots a game it seems. Overall his FG% stank as recently as 1 or 2 weeks ago and still is well below the "usual" Hakeem. His FT% is so horrific, Shaq makes him look good. The fact that he's allowed to roam a bit more now due to the rules changes has helped his blocks immensely. His rebounding is still solid.
This is a list of less than 30% shooters, plus other criteria explained earlier. It's not a list of who's shooting 43% or worse. Well, if you "rarely" fart, then remind me never to sit next to you. Hakeem has shot less than 7 times in FOUR of the FIFTEEN games he has participated in. And, two of those instances were in games were he played less than 16 minutes. So, in 73.33% of his games Olajuwon is shooting enough times to meet the shooting requirements for my list... doesn't sound very rare to me, but maybe I'm a little biased. Also, you are saying he's such a bad shooter (percentage-wise), but then you say he doesn't shoot much. If you put those two together, then you must say that Hakeem's poor shooting does not have much of an impact on how well the Raptor's offense runs. I can take a sample of just about any player in the NBA and make him look bad too. No one on his team (that averages at least 17 min) is shooting better from the floor than him, except Keon Clark. Don't you mean, he makes Shaq look good? Anyways, yes, his FT% is crap. Could you back that up with statistics proving that it is easier for the league to block shots with the rule changes, or is this just a "smoke-and-mirror" argument intended to argue away one of Hakeem's strengths? Yes it is.
Anfernee Hardaway: 5 - 17 (.294) <FONT SIZE="1">Whew, this was close. We almost had a break-down in "THE LIST", because this was the last of four games on the schedule tonight, and Penny barely made it....</FONT>
Yeah... gotta love the "plus other criteria". lol. Help me out here... my calculus and differential equations are solid, but my 'rithmetic sucks paw : Nov. 4 2-for-7 Nov. 7 2-for-8 Nov. 22 1-for-5 I love the way you twist your numbers to support your man. My statement was that he rarely takes more than 7 or 8 shots a game. Total number of games he's actually taken more than 8 shots : 6. I never said anything about how many times he's shot less than 7. I fart in your general direction... Trivial and irrelevant statement. Nobody's arguing his contribution to his team. Stay on topic please -- everything that wiggles is not bait. Who just so happens to be a center. Sure. Show me the stat that either proves or refutes it. Weak. It's sad when I come in here to go at this objectively and you get your panties in a wad as usual. At least you haven't pulled out the "racist" card on me yet, so that's an improvement... Keep your list going. It's always good for a few laughs for some. Now pardon me if I find this thread about as useless at t*** on a bull.
It's not my fault Hakeem has not met my criteria. I came up with the "criteria" to show people who had exceptionally poor shooting nights. I came up with it before Hakeem shot 2 - 7. I'm not refuting whether he shot 2 - 7, or whether he's shooting well for the season. This whole thread was in response to someone rejoicing in the fact that Hakeem went 0 - 11 in a pre-season game. I just wondered (after reading that thread) whether Hakeem would continue to shoot that poorly in the regular season, and if other NBA players had similar poor shooting nights. I am satisfied with the results, so far. I love the way you deny saying something that is plain for everyone to see. DoD: "Hakeem can rarely make your list". It seems to me that I proved that your statement was incorrect. I proved that in 73.33% of the games Hakeem shoots enough to make the list. I thought that was clear. I wonder what Antonio Davis is shooting... You made a claim. It's up to you to prove it. What are you talking about? I thought everything was going fairly smoothly..... How have I gotten my "panties in a wad"? Now, that is bullsh!t. I never called you a racist. Clutch said I was calling you a racist. If you don't listen to the horse's mouth, then I don't give a rat's ass what you believe. Rarely do people on this BBS get me upset, but that chicken **** statement has. You might not be a racist, but you are a prick (or at least in this instance). Totally uncalled for. Last I checked, you were a "Senior Member" not an "Administrator", so it's obviously not up to you. It's up to me (to continue) or the Admins (to discontinue).
Oh quit your whining and name-calling, DREAMer. I'm feeling nice today. Anyway, I really would like to go point-by-point at your supposed refutes, but I figure "what the hell". This thread really proves nothing. Your numbers really prove nothing. It's one man's obsession. So I'll give into you and you really do have my permission to keep your list going. ...laughing hysterically at work is going to get me in trouble, I just know it.
Glenn Robinson: 5 - 17 (.294) Larry Hughes: 3 - 11 (.273) Eddie House: 3 - 12 (.250) Anthony Mason: 3 - 12 (.250) Richard Hamilton: 3 - 13 (.231) Courtney Alexander: 2 - 9 (.222) Ron Mercer: 2 - 11 (.182) Derek Fisher: 2 - 11 (.182) Rod Strickland: 1 - 7 (.143) Kenyon Martin: 1 - 7 (.143)
Rashard Lewis: 5 - 18 (.278) Michael Olowokandi: 3 - 11 (.273) Speedy Claxton: 2 - 9 (.222) Chauncey Billups: 2 - 9 (.222) James Posey: 4 - 18 (.222) Bruce Bowen: 1 - 7 (.143) Sam Cassell: 1 - 9 (.111)
Ruben Patterson: 5 - 17 (.294) Vlade Divac: 3 - 11 (.273) Nick Van Exel: 4 - 19 (.211) Rod Strickland: 3 - 15 (.200) Moochie Norris: 2 - 10 (.200) George McCloud: 2 - 10 (.200)
Jason Kidd: 6 - 21 (.286) Kevin Garnett: 5 - 18 (.278) *3rd strike on KG. Brad Miller: 4 - 15 (.267) *Do we really want this guy? Ron Mercer: 4 - 16 (.250) Jumaine Jones: 3 - 12 (.250) Walt Williams: 3 - 13 (.231) Kevin Willis: 2 - 9 (.222) Joe Smith: 2 - 10 (.200) Baron Davis: 2 - 14 (.143) John Amaechi: 1 - 7 (.143) Antawn Jamison: 0 - 11 (.000) **Jermaine O'Neal: 3 - 12 (.250) *On Free-Throws --------------------- How does Jason Kidd get 19 assists in a game where he shoots 21 times, and his team shoots 38.1%?
