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Spring Teens Beat the Crud out of a Hispanic

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Supermac34, Apr 27, 2006.

  1. swilkins

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    I think ak corrected herself.
     
  2. Drewdog

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    Exactly. Thats where I grew up. Champions uses a Houston address, but all of Klein up and down Louetta (10 miles from Spring the town) uses a Spring, TX address - 77379. I lived in Champion Forest and went to Klein High School and never really encountered racism. Everything was pretty normal for the most part.

    Thats the sh!tty part of no zoning we never really lived in a "town" just a zone of Harris County.
     
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    ok cool....my house is in the 77379 zip code! :)
     
  4. Drewdog

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    Yeah no worries at all. Very nice area.
     
  5. codell

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    Not really, at least, not as much as it used to be. Magnolia/Tomball has become a hot area to live in because of the landscape out here. Lots of loaded whit collar folks are migrating out this way every year.
     
  6. Eric Riley

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    I don't mean to knock anyone down, but what's the importance of "hey i live in this zip code" or "this area is west of that area"?

    Don't get me wrong, I understand how it's important to understand the areas we live in and the types of people there, but we're getting further and further off track from the big issue.
     
  7. swilkins

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    Hello neighbor.
     
  8. Two Sandwiches

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    I don't think many people know about the 1486/2920 area. It's more commonl known as the "Bear Branch" area to the locals, but that's a great spot where tons of upper-middle class folks are moving. Close to the Woodlands and I-45, but still wooded country.


    That area's really shot up in the last 10 years. It was nothing in 1996.
     
  9. F.D. Khan

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    I wonder what the background of the story was. From the poster that lives nearby, they're obviously bad cookies, but I wonder what would make them so savagely beat this kid up.

    If the kid was 16 and trying to kiss a 12 year old its pretty sick, but if there was more to the story and he was trying other things or if drugs/alcohol was involved, then there may be more to the story than it seems.

    No matter what no kid deserves to be beat like that, but if someone was feeding drugs or alcohol to a 12 year old girl and then trying to kiss her or behave innappropriately then they do deserves to get their a$$ kicked, but the whole pipe sodomy thing is just deplorable.
     
  10. Rocketman95

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    How about what in the hell was a 12 year-old doing at a party? I can't believe anyone would even fathom trying to blame the victim in this case.
     
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    I'm not blaming the victim, I just prefer to know all the information. How would your perception be changed if this 16 year old kid brought this 12 year old to a party and tried to get her drunk/high to take advantage of her? And then her brother or brothers friends saw this taking place?

    That would change the perception a bit. I'm not saying that is what happened and its probably far from the truth, BUT having the information can better help us understand if this victim did some silly things to put himself in this situation to be beaten (almost to death).
     
  12. akperez

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    Sorry...but even if he did that he doesn't deserve the treatment he got. That's inhumane. I wouldn't even wish what they did to him onto the two defendants. Death penalty? Definitely. Grueling torture like that? No. Beating the crap out of him is one thing. But what they did with the pole and then kicking it----that was definitely crossing the line.
     
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    I can tell you that this is not the case. My wife was working Intake when a part of this case came in. There are alot more details that will come out in trial.
     
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    In the high school and college years where some instances turned to fisticuffs, none lead to such cruelty. The most I ever dished out was a black eye or a busted lip. What person comes up with the idea of ramming a pole up someone's a$$. The one time I bought off more then I could handle, tackling the little brother of three brothers. I didn't know at the time that the two giants off to the left were his "big" brothers. Keep in mind the little squirt busted my lip unprovoked before I started to pound on him. Next thing I knew the lights went out all over the world. Turns out I was getting kicked in the head by the boots of the two older brothers, thank goodness for my thick german skull. I found out who my "real" friends where that night. It wasn't my "friends" who were strong (football players) who came to my rescue. It was the stoners, big drunks, nerds and a some acquaintances from another high school who had by back and collectively jumped the two giants.

    Did no one at this party witness this beating? How about calling 911 for paramedics even after the fact? The boy was just left out in the backyard for 10 hours? How big was the party?
     
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    Well, if the 16-year old latino dude had tried to drug the 12-year old dudette in attempt to take advantage of her, wouldn't have it been a story in itself and wouldn't have the apologists of the two skinheads made it known to the press/public?

    Even if your imagination were true, the violent acts minus the pipe sodomy, i.e., stomping one's head with steel-toed boots, slashing one's chest with a knife, and pouring bleach on one's wounded body would be your version of justice?
     
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    Judging by what we've read, and only by what we've read, these two skinheads probably invited the kid over, told him the girl wanted a kiss, so when he tried to kiss her, they beat him. They probably all left at the same time, thus no one was there...
     
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    Looks like they won't face hate crime charges.....which wouldn't make a difference. What did stand out is that the 12 year old was hispanic too. So I think they just wanted a reason to beat this kid up. And another thing, the victims name, David Ritcheson, doesn't sound Hispanic. Maybe he was biracial.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/3827499.html

    April 28, 2006, 1:52PM
    Texas Teens Won't Face Hate-Crime Charges


    By JUAN A. LOZANO Associated Press Writer
    © 2006 The Associated Press

    HOUSTON — Prosecutors say they won't seek hate-crime charges against two white teens accused of brutally beating and sodomizing a 16-year-old Hispanic boy, who was clinging to life after being left for dead.

    The two attacked the boy after he tried to kiss a 12-year-old girl at an unsupervised house party Saturday night in suburban Spring, authorities said.

    The attackers, both of whom have juvenile criminal records, apparently were offended at the age difference between the victim and the girl, who is also Hispanic, and shouted racial slurs at him during the 10- to 15-minute attack, investigators said.

    Authorities said the two dragged the boy from the party and into the yard, where they sodomized him with a plastic pipe from a patio table umbrella.

    County prosecutor Mike Trent said the boy also had high levels of toxins in his organs, indicating the attackers may have poured bleach inside the pipe used to sodomize him. Doctors believe the boy, who was in critical condition Friday, passed out quickly and was unconscious for most of the attack.

    "After they got him down on the ground, they stomped his head with (steel-toed) boots," Harris County Sheriff's Lt. John Denholm said. "They actually kicked the pipe further into him with the boots."

    Trent described the pipe as being sharpened at one end. At one point, the teens tried to carve something on the boy's chest with a knife, he told CNN Friday.

    "I don't know that the very beginning of the attack was racial," Trent said, "but there's no question that they were venting quite a bit of hatred in their hearts."

    Trent said that adding hate-crime charges to the aggravated sexual assault faced by David Henry Tuck, 18, and Keith Robert Turner, 17, would have no legal effect.

    Even if the victim dies, the charge would be upgraded to capital murder because of the sexual assault, making Tuck eligible for the death penalty. Turner is too young to be eligible for execution.

    Both are charged with aggravated sexual assault, which carries a maximum of five years to life in prison. They were being held in the county jail. Charles Hinton, Tuck's attorney, did not return a call seeking comment. It was not known if Turner had an attorney.

    If the two are convicted of aggravated sexual assault, jurors will be told during sentencing about the ethnic slurs used during the attack, Trent said.

    "Whether it is one or isn't a hate crime, and it may be, that will make no difference here," Trent said. "This is already a first-degree felony and it can't be elevated any higher. There's nowhere to go beyond this, unless the victim dies."

    The Anti-Defamation League wants prosecutors to add hate-crime charges even if it won't add to the penalties. "We want the public to accept and understand that this was a hate crime," regional director Martin Cominsky said.

    The victim lay behind the house for more than 10 hours before he was found and someone called an ambulance. Trent said the attackers threatened partygoers with harm if they cooperated with the investigation.

    The victim was a popular football player at Klein Collins High School who also posed for a fashion layout in the school yearbook, the Houston Chronicle reported. Because the boy is a juvenile sexual assault victim, The Associated Press will not identify him.

    Dozens of postings from friends on the victim's Myspace.com page send wishes for recovery in styles ranging from Bible verses to obscene, rap-like poems urging violent ends for the attackers. The boy's last posting was Saturday, the day of the attack.
     
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    It does...makes it all the more sad. :(
     

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