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SportsVU tracking for Rockets players

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by uncarved, Nov 1, 2013.

  1. uncarved

    uncarved Member

    Oct 10, 2012
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    Thanks to the NBA Dish thread (http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=245964) for pointing this out.

    I really like a lot of these new stats on the NBA.com website. Obviously the current values can't be relied upon due to small sample size, but the type of new information provided is great and will be worth tracking as the season progresses.

    For example:
    Driving (Team PPG on Player Drives)
    Lin is currently 2nd behind Dragic, Parsons is 4th, Harden is 6th, and if you adjust it on a minutes played basis, Lin actually comes out on top.

    Possession Tracking (Front court touches/game, points per half court touch)

    Passing (FT Assists/Hockey Assists/Points created from assists)

    Defense (Opponent FG% At Rim)
    Omer had a better showing on this one, probably due to Dwight getting assigned to McRoberts while Asik was on Jefferson.

    Rebounding (REB%, Contested/Uncontested REB)
    Dwight getting a ton of uncontested rebounds. Will need to combine the stats later to see how good the players are at grabbing contested rebounds. Maybe something like (contested reb)/(contested reb + missed reb chances)

    And also various shooting stats (Catch & Shoot/Pull ups).
  2. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Contributing Member

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  3. JBar

    JBar Rookie

    Jan 5, 2013
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    These will be interesting to follow. Thanks for the links.
  4. uncarved

    uncarved Member

    Oct 10, 2012
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    Good one Carl.

    I copied the rebounding data to Excel to try and calculate a better contested REB % stat (I'm less interested in what % of a player's rebounds were contested than in what % of contested rebound chances did the player come away with).

    Filtering to require more than 8 rebound chances a game to make the list more manageable to start, Cousins tops the list grabbing 6 contested rebounds and only missing 1 rebound "chance".

    The top 50 from the list sorted by %:
    DeMarcus Cousins (SAC)	0.857142857
    Anthony Davis (NOP)	0.75
    Andre Drummond (DET)	0.666666667
    Tiago Splitter (SAS)	0.666666667
    Lance Stephenson (IND)	0.666666667
    Jordan Hill (LAL)	0.615384615
    Miles Plumlee (PHX)	0.6
    DeAndre Jordan (LAC)	0.6
    Roy Hibbert (IND)	0.571428571
    Kevin Garnett (BKN)	0.545454545
    Draymond Green (GSW)	0.533333333
    Kevin Love (MIN)	0.5
    Tyson Chandler (NYK)	0.5
    Jonas Valanciunas (TOR)	0.5
    Thaddeus Young (PHI)	0.5
    Shawn Marion (DAL)	0.5
    Trevor Booker (WAS)	0.5
    Omer Asik (HOU)		0.473684211
    Pau Gasol (LAL)		0.473684211
    PJ Tucker (PHX)		0.428571429
    Kris Humphries (BOS)	0.411764706
    Marcin Gortat (WAS)	0.4
    Earl Clark (CLE)	0.4
    Marcus Morris (PHX)	0.4
    Nikola Vucevic (ORL)	0.387096774
    Tyler Hansbrough (TOR)	0.384615385
    Zaza Pachulia (MIL)	0.384615385
    Rudy Gobert (UTA)	0.375
    Chris Kaman (LAL)	0.375
    Landry Fields (TOR)	0.375
    Derrick Favors (UTA)	0.363636364
    Dwight Howard (HOU)	0.357142857
    Luol Deng (CHI)		0.357142857
    Chris Bosh (MIA)		0.35
    Al Jefferson (CHA)	0.333333333
    Joakim Noah (CHI)	0.333333333
    Nicolas Batum (POR)	0.333333333
    Trevor Ariza (WAS)	0.333333333
    Brook Lopez (BKN)	0.333333333
    Kendrick Perkins (OKC)	0.333333333
    Carlos Boozer (CHI)	0.333333333
    Carmelo Anthony (NYK)	0.333333333
    Al Horford (ATL)		0.333333333
    Bismack Biyombo (CHA)	0.333333333
    Tristan Thompson (CLE)	0.307692308
    Greg Monroe (DET)	0.3
    Reggie Evans (BKN)	0.3
    Steven Adams (OKC)	0.3
    Marc Gasol (MEM)	0.285714286
    Dwight doesn't come out too well here, but one deficiency in this metric is that it's considered contested if an opponent is within 3.5 feet. But if Asik is also nearby and comes away with the rebound, then that would count as a miss for Dwight. I wish there was a stat that would track not only if there was an opponent close by, but how many bodies were nearby (fighting against 2+ opponents, or an opponent and Asik and coming away with the rebound being more impressive than beating out a single opponent).
  5. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

    Jul 28, 2000
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    This stat doesn't account for the Dwight effect. People give up fighting for rebounds with Dwight around because they feel its a lost cause.
  6. uncarved

    uncarved Member

    Oct 10, 2012
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    Maybe. But from the other thread:
    Dwight had 6 OREB, 20 DREB, which pretty closely matches his 5 contested, 21 uncontested rebounds. The other team not trying explains why he gets a ton of uncontested rebounds. It doesn't explain why of his contested "chances", he comes away with relatively fewer of them.
  7. JustAGuy

    JustAGuy Member

    Dec 17, 2012
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    Catch and shoot 3pt fg/game: # 1 in nba, Francisco Garcia.

    I would not object to keeping that stat there the rest of the season.
  8. JustAGuy

    JustAGuy Member

    Dec 17, 2012
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    How did you extract the data? I'm trying to figure out an automated way to do that, but they have not made it easy.
  9. uncarved

    uncarved Member

    Oct 10, 2012
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    I just copied and pasted. As you said, it's a pain, so I'm going to try to use filters that limit the lists to <100 players at a time, but if you're careful about what you highlight, it translates straight into Excel.

    From their FAQ, it looks like they're not planning on making the data generally available:
  10. vincilicious

    vincilicious Member

    Oct 12, 2013
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    Thanks for the link- definitely looking forward to seeing this data flesh out throughout the season.
  11. yummyhawtsauce

    Oct 2, 2013
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    Sick data. Thanks.

    Interesting fact, Lin and Harden share almost the same amount of touches, with line being 1 spot ahead of Harden.
  12. JustAGuy

    JustAGuy Member

    Dec 17, 2012
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    For entire NBA:

    Player points per game on drive:
    JHarden #1, JLin #3

    Team points per game on drive:
    JLin #2, JHarden #4

    May have Howard now, but still driving to the basket.
  13. RoxOn RoxOff

    RoxOn RoxOff Member

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    Lin is 4th in the number of drives taken (14) - two of those above him played two games already and the one that hadn't is Goran Dragic with 15 in one game.

    Another Lin v. Dragic Comparison

    Goran Dragic (PHX) 1 41.5 50.0% 15 8 15.0 8.0 17.0 9.3
    Jeremy Lin (HOU) 1 30.6 60.0% 14 9 14.0 9.0 15.0 14.1
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    burnshroom Member

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    daywalker02 Member

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    another girl pls
  16. uncarved

    uncarved Member

    Oct 10, 2012
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    Took them a while to upload the stats after the second game, but they were pretty fast about updating after the third.

    Lin still #2 on team points per drive behind Dragic, and tied with Harden at #3 for personal points per drive.

    Garcia tied at #1 for catch-and-shoot points per game

    Asik #2 in Opponent FG% at Rim (20.8%) among players with Opponent FGA>3.5 per game. Howard's much closer to the bottom allowing 58.1% at the rim. Is it due to defensive assignments where Howard's on better players? Still too small a sample size though.

    Dwight still #1 in rebounds per game, Asik tied with Kris Humphries at #1 for contested rebounds per game.

    And in the contested rebound chances won among players with at least 8 rebound chances per game, Asik is at #8, Dwight is at #25:
    Player			Contested Rebounds Won %
    Shawn Marion (DAL)	0.6976744186
    DeMarcus Cousins (SAC)	0.625
    DeAndre Jordan (LAC)	0.5747126437
    Nikola Pekovic (MIN)	0.5714285714
    Jordan Hill (LAL)	0.5555555556
    Tyson Chandler (NYK)	0.55
    Andre Drummond (DET)	0.5454545455
    Omer Asik (HOU)		0.5384615385
    Pau Gasol (LAL)		0.5164835165
    Anthony Davis (NOP)	0.5135135135
    Ian Mahinmi (IND)	0.5
    Kevin Love (MIN)	0.5
    Roy Hibbert (IND)	0.5
    Jonas Valanciunas (TOR)	0.5
    Kevin Garnett (BKN)	0.5
    Landry Fields (TOR)	0.5
    Thaddeus Young (PHI)	0.4761904762
    Trevor Booker (WAS)	0.4736842105
    Al Horford (ATL)	0.4666666667
    Greg Stiemsma (NOP)	0.45
    Draymond Green (GSW)	0.45
    Samuel Dalembert (DAL)	0.417721519
    Kris Humphries (BOS)	0.4117647059
    Blake Griffin (LAC)	0.4065934066
    Dwight Howard (HOU)	0.4056603774
    Chris Kaman (LAL)	0.4029850746
    Kawhi Leonard (SAS)	0.3939393939
    Miles Plumlee (PHX)	0.3928571429
    Zaza Pachulia (MIL)	0.3913043478
    Enes Kanter (UTA)	0.3897058824
    Tiago Splitter (SAS)	0.3883495146
    Paul George (IND)	0.3863636364
    Kenneth Faried (DEN)	0.380952381
    Derrick Williams (MIN)	0.375
    Taj Gibson (CHI)	0.375
    LaMarcus Aldridge (POR)	0.37
    Marcin Gortat (WAS)	0.3636363636
    DeJuan Blair (DAL)	0.3636363636
    Nikola Vucevic (ORL)	0.3495934959
    Luol Deng (CHI)		0.3484848485
    Vitor Faverani (BOS)	0.3448275862
    Joakim Noah (CHI)	0.34375
    Jason Thompson (SAC)	0.34
    Al Jefferson (CHA)	0.3333333333
    JJ Hickson (DEN)	0.3333333333
    Carmelo Anthony (NYK)	0.3333333333
    Rudy Gay (TOR)		0.3333333333
    LeBron James (MIA)	0.3333333333
    Zach Randolph (MEM)	0.33125
    Nicolas Batum (POR)	0.3285714286
    Joel Freeland (POR)	0.3285714286
    Steven Adams (OKC)	0.3181818182
    Tyler Hansbrough (TOR)	0.3157894737
    Josh McRoberts (CHA)	0.3150684932
    Spencer Hawes (PHI)	0.3138686131
    Trevor Ariza (WAS)	0.3125
    Derrick Favors (UTA)	0.3076923077
    Amir Johnson (TOR)	0.3076923077
    Greg Monroe (DET)	0.303030303
    Dirk Nowitzki (DAL)	0.303030303
    Chris Bosh (MIA)	0.3026315789
    Carlos Boozer (CHI)	0.2985074627
    Kosta Koufos (MEM)	0.298245614
    Jeff Green (BOS)	0.2727272727
    DeMarre Carroll (ATL)	0.2727272727
    Jimmy Butler (CHI)	0.2702702703
    Brook Lopez (BKN)	0.2666666667
    Robin Lopez (POR)	0.2597402597
    Tristan Thompson (CLE)	0.2523364486
    Anderson Varejao (CLE)	0.2523364486
    Serge Ibaka (OKC)	0.25
    Marc Gasol (MEM)	0.25
    Andrew Nicholson (ORL)	0.25
    Paul Millsap (ATL)	0.2352941176
    David Lee (GSW)		0.2307692308
    Bismack Biyombo (CHA)	0.2297297297
    Wesley Matthews (POR)	0.2280701754
    Tim Duncan (SAS)	0.2222222222
    Darrell Arthur (DEN)	0.2142857143
    Victor Oladipo (ORL)	0.2127659574
    Chandler Parsons (HOU)	0.2125
    Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (CHA)	0.2063492063
    Andrew Bogut (GSW)	0.2048192771
    Kyrie Irving (CLE)	0.1785714286
    Josh Smith (DET)	0.1764705882
    Evan Turner (PHI)	0.1688311688
    Kyle Singler (DET)	0.1666666667
    David West (IND)	0.1625
    Damian Lillard (POR)	0.1590909091
    Markieff Morris (PHX)	0.1428571429
    Dante Cunningham (MIN)	0.1428571429
    Caron Butler (MIL)	0.1
    Omri Casspi (HOU)	0.0833333333
    Xavier Henry (LAL)	0.0638297872
    Eric Bledsoe (PHX)	0

    Rockets are not showing well on the passing/pull-up stats so far, which matches how they've played in these first 3 games.
  17. Panda23

    Panda23 Member

    Jul 2, 2012
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    hmmmm interesting, so far,

    Lin FG on drives 61.5%, his PPG on drives is 8.3.
    Harden FG on drives is 72.7% his PPG on drives is 8.3.

    Meanwhile..... Monta Ellis

    FG on drives 46.2%, PPG on drives is 8.7.

    So basically, Lin and Harden are driving well, while Monta still has it all
  18. uncarved

    uncarved Member

    Oct 10, 2012
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    That's actually surprising to me, he's shooting a lot worse on the same number of drives but he ends up with more PPG. It's probably because of shooting fouls? Lin and Monta have both drawn 6 fouls per game, while Harden has drawn 6.7, but Monta is averaging 7 of 8 from the line a game, while Harden and Lin have been less efficient from the line.
  19. kakaman

    kakaman Member

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    Jeremy being VERY aggressive thus far. Also not surprisingly, the guy he replaced is also killing it.


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