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[SportsRadio 610] Rocket Insider: Dennis Lindsey (12/1/06)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by mogrod, Dec 1, 2006.

  1. SamFisher

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    Documented, how's that?

     
  2. forchette49

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    Agreed, he's definately peaked, when Foye is stealing minutes from him as a rookie, that should tell you something. He has one of the most dominate players in our generation at the PF position and can still only average 10/2/4 in 28 mins. with Hudson, Foye and Jaric breathing down his neck as incentive, pretty sad...
     
  3. Amel

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    Foye really impressed me the last two games

    no fear and really focused on what he does
     
  4. wnes

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    in court, counselor?

    lol

    Edit: Sam, I of course know he had some problems with his old teammates and/or coaches. What I am talking about is now that he is here with the Rockets, shouldn't the coach/management give him a new start?
     
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  5. mag

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    Just because Bonzi's comments that he did not come here to run a marathon and play basketball. Maybe JVG did not tell him that before he gets to the court he has to be able to run whatever number of miles in a given period of time of whatever method JVG uses.

    From Bonzi's comment it appears they have not talked about those issues.
     
  6. GATER

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    I had no problems with signing Wells. I have no problem with sticking to principles that apply roster wide...get in shape before getting on the floor. What I would have a problem with is a "my way or the highway" approach over a "tough love" approach. We'll see.


    Paraphrase from the horses mouth...former Rocket and TWolves broadcaster Jim Petersen during the Minn @ Hou game..."Dwayne (Casey) needs to get a rotation set because the playing time he's giving Troy Hudson is not allowing Mike James to get aclimated to the system".

    BTW...getting PT taken from you by Foye is not a big deal. He'd probably start here over Alston. :p
     
  7. mag

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    Do you guys think that if we would have got Foye, he will be getting the same amount of minutes under JVG?
     
  8. slowmustang

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    Brandon Roy easily would have.
     
  9. mbiker

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    It’s obvious by your statement that you have never been in management. Some people can have a great interview, but once they are hired they may choose not to follow the rules, or don’t perform well. This is why people get fired from jobs.

    It is Bonzi’s responsibility to follow the rules that are set forth by management. You don’t let the patents run the insane asylum, this is not Portland. The little time that Bonzi played he looked horrible. It was obvious that he is extremely out of shape.

    The Rockets are 10 and 5 while Tmac is in a shooting slump. The team has a lot of new players and still has not developed chemistry yet. With these obstacles it is surprising that we have such a good record. JVG must be doing something right. To try to get Bonzi into shape during games, like some have suggested, would have been disastrous.
     
  10. MONON

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    Let's see now. JVG made Spree a solid player with the Knicks without getting choked and TMac has given 100% with us instead of taking games off as he said he did in Orlando. Not So Swift just didn't have a BB IQ. Bonzi was out of shape and too slow in the game I saw him play. If a player doesn't want to play for us because JVG won't play an out-of- shape player, then we don't need that player.
     
  11. DonkeyMagic

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    Nevertheless, JVG's inability to handle a gifted player with some alleged attitude problem is the bigger concern for this franchise. This is like the Swift situation all over again, with the magnitude getting multiplied.

    yeah, b/c JVG has never been able to get players with 'attitude problems' to play some of their best basketball. Hmmm....spreewell. oakley. rafer. snyder was off to a good start. Yeah...good argument.

    like swift? how so? swift wasted the MLE, bonzi took the scraps leftover. Swift, was all potential. Bonzi, a known commodity. Swift, dumber than a box of rocks and about as much effort. Bonzi, disgruntled b/c he turned down $35 mill. If anything, this is similar to DA. the swift comparison is not even close.
     
  12. robbie380

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    is my sarcasm detector broken here? or are you actually blaming JVG for bonzi's problems?

    don't forget van gundy actually let fat bonzi play and fat bonzi looked really big. it's not as if he totally shut him out.

    when an abusive husband beats his wife is it her fault if the marriage fails when she says not more hitting? for the bonzi situation we can sub eating and not practing for hitting.
     
  13. studogg

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    I find this statement from Lindsey to be odd especially when coming off the heels of IC200 stating he's back at practice and close to in shape. Not only that, but Clutch verified this and mentioned the possibility of Bonzi getting PT this weekend.

    Lindsey did mention that he's been on the road scouting colleges, maybe he is a bit out of the loop on the current drama that is bonzi?
     
  14. JoeBarelyCares

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    I thought December 15th was the first day players signed in the offseason could be traded?
     
  15. BigM

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    wow your logic is brutally terrible. knowing absolutely nothing about the situation why on earth would you pin the blame on van gundy, if it's between him and bonzi? bonzi is a documented head-case who came in out of shape and has missed time for more than one personal reason. on the other hand, van gundy is well-liked by his players and former players and has atleast one example of taking an extreme headcase and making it work(sprewell). with no additional information available to us, this is 100% on bonzi at the current moment.

    the stromile swift argument is a waste of space. we got him on the idea that we could turn him around and tap that potential. he didnt regress under van gundy he just continued to be mediocre as he was under hubie and fratello. what exactly are you blaming van gundy for doing to him?
     
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    i heard DLs comments and it just sounded like he flat out had no idea what to think of the situation.

    one funny thing about the interview was when DL first came on john asked hows it going or whats going on or whatever. DL said he was going over some players. John responded, 'you know what player you should be going after that could help this team...bonzi wells'.
     
  17. McGradySNKT

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    I agree, and wouldn't you find it even more odd that a Rockets employee like Lindsey would have absolutely no idea what's going on with the organization and out giving detailed interviews?
     
  18. TBar

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    I really wish this could work out for Bonzi. I do not think it is realistic for him to "play his way into shape" without training.

    zIf he could get into condition by February or March he could really help us in a playoff run. the guy was a monster in Sacramento early in the playoffs.

    I think we all agree he has the ablility. This is on him- his responsibility to his job and contract....

    Bonzi has to live up to his contract.....
     
  19. McGradySNKT

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    Can't do that if he isn't on the floor.
     
  20. don grahamleone

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    Money doesn't mean anything to Bonzi right now. He's made his millions. If he makes a few more million, he'll just add it to the stack that he'll never spend. Basketball money is a lot of money. If Bonzi was all about the money, he would have signed with Sacramento. The Rockets just need to find out what does motivate Bonzi. There has to be something. While I'd love to blame Bonzi for some internal issues, the truth is, the organization needs to try harder to get him involved. What good comes from blaming the player? Nothing. So why do it. Just try something else. (JVG probably doesn't need to be involved)
     

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