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Sportsradio 610 Matt Jackson confirms Daniels Speculation

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by thacabbage, Jul 13, 2004.

  1. Pat

    Pat Member

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    I recall the Rockets giving up their first round pick for somebody elses second round pick. One for one. WE gave up like 28 for 30, or thereabouts. Drafted Orthello Harrington.

    Utah gave up the pick (#21 I think) they got from us (in the Rice trade). They took that big Russian guy then let him go for a future Mavericks pick. That was pretty much just letting the guy go. They couldn't afford three guaranteed roster slots to such mediocre prospects. Much like we are seasoning our guys in Europe.

    Orlando has potential to suck, their first rounder has value.
     
  2. omax

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    Allright. Point taken. But don't you think we are giving up too much for him?
     
  3. RocksMillenium

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    Derek Fisher's career average is 7.4 ppg and 3 apg and he did a fine job passing the ball to Shaq and people want him. And I haven't heard anything about Derek Fisher and defense of the year. In fact, outside of Payton, I rarely hear about ANY PG getting defensive player of the year so why hold that against Daniels? And trading one draft pick isn't selling the whole house, especially since the TE will expire in 2 months.
     
  4. KaiSeR SoZe

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    I want a 3pt shooter! Fisher can shoot 3's
     
  5. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

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    Wow. I'm shocked. You mean to tell me that if you predict doom every time the Rockets make a move you'll be right occasionally? Who'd have thought.

    Seriously, have the Rockets ever once made a move you were happy with?
     
  6. PXZ

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    Jimmy Jackson's career is way better than Daniels' and we did not have to give up anything for him.

    JJ was a career 15ppg 5rpg 3apg while Daniels is 7ppg 2rpg and 3apg. JJ was averaging 25 ppg in his third season in NBA (also had three seasons with 19ppg) while Daniels' highest season score average was 9ppg.
     
  7. RocksMillenium

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    Sorry omax, I posted that BEFORE I ready your response! :)
     
  8. omax

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    No problem. I think we are all a little worked up right now.
    We just want our team to win.
    ;)
     
  9. omax

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    Allright. Point taken. But don't you think we are giving up too much for him?
     
  10. CriscoKidd

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    I don't like giving up a 1st rounder for a player that:

    a) might only stick around for a year and then move on.

    b) isn't all that great.


    Don't get me wrong, I think AD would be a fine n dandy starter for this ball club. But if we're just renting an average role player for a year, then screw giving away another 1st rounder. AD isn't putting us over the top. Just sign Damon Jones instead.

    But I'd be satisfied if the pick was heavily protected and AD agreed not to exercise his player option. I doubt that would be taken into consideration tho.
     
  11. gucci888

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    Not another #1 pick!! Please Les/CD, give us atleast one 1st rounder.
     
  12. Man

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    I agree with TheCat and RocksMillenium and whoever else..

    I like this trade. I like Antonio Daniels. Only thing I don't like is that he could suck and just leave after this season..but I'm pretty sure he wants to win...lol not all about money..I want to read more articles about him. That one excerpt was good. Thanks.
     
  13. canoner2002

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    He has forgotten that. All the gamblers remember only the bets they won.

    RIET didn't question Pike's 3pt threat. But he is taking on that point now.
     
  14. RocketFan85

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    Who cares about a first round pick? They are good for nothing but clogging up cap space. More times than not you get a dud if your picking outside the top 10 anyway. I rether have a 2nd round steal like Mobley.
     
  15. RIET

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    My favorite nemesis. Apparently I have a lot of enemies because I dare question the management. I am just evil.

    I did not feel that Jim Jackson deserved his contract based on what he made the previous seasons.

    The reason we signed Jim Jackson so late was because very few, if any team wanted to give him more than the veteran's minimum.

    The previous year, he was literally sitting at his home without a job. Sacramento gave him the minimum contract and elected not to resign him because of salary cap constraints.

    My argument was that if the only teams in the league wanted to sign Jim Jackson for minimum pay, why were we offering him a 3 year deal that more than doubled what anyone else was willing to pay. Also, if we liked him so much, why didn't we sign him when he was sitting at home.

    In this situation, it paid off because Jackson was a fantastic contributer. However, he was still getting offered a much larger contract than most were willing to give at the time.

    I questioned how long a soon to be 34 year old player would hold out for the duration of his contract.

    Of course if we had signed Posey, it would have all been moot because in 3 years, he'll still be a starter.
     
  16. CriscoKidd

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    Cool, then let's just trade all our non lotto 1st round picks for a bunch of 2nd rounders since they suck so much.
     
  17. Drexlerfan22

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    Fine. Yet you said this earlier:

    And then you told me "don't give me that 20/20 hindsight crap" when I said we weren't about to sign JJ before we signed Pike, or at least another shooter.

    So let me get this straight: first you bash the management for not signing JJ to a contract that is damn near equal to Pike's ($2.5 mil next year compared to $2.7 mil next year), and then you turn around and say that you yourself didn't think JJ deserved that contract at the time?

    Huh?
     
  18. RIET

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    What are you talking about. They are not mutually exclusive. We couldve signed JJ in lieu of Pike.

    What I argued was that I didn't feel JJ deserved the contract he was given because no one else was offering him that at the time and we couldve gotten him cheaper.
     
  19. Drexlerfan22

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    Yeah, if you're the proud owner of a working crystal ball, which is my whole point.

    The Rockets were looking for a SHOOTER. I did not see ONE PERSON suggesting we get JJ instead of Pike at the time. Not you, not Rockets' management, not the media, not me. Therefore, the Glen Rice deal was necessary to get JJ.

    Argue in retrospect all you want. Yes, NOW I think we should've signed JJ instead of Pike. And NOW I know I wouldn't have balked at including Eddie Griffin in a deal for Rashard Lewis. Or drafting Rhodes ahead of.... well... anybody. The point is those didn't seem like good ideas AT THE TIME.
     
  20. bottlerocket

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    What happen with D. Fisher coming to H-town?
     

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