[SportsRadio 610] JVG to be on in the morning (6/20/06)

It would be a bad sign for Carney if JVG was making the draft selections. And we know that it's DL/CD/DM that are making the decisions so who knows .

 

For the record, I'd be happy with Redick or Brewer at this point. Carney is intriguing but I have to agree that he's a bit risky with the "effort" issue.

JVG's whole statement regarding "draft for offense and teach them defense" statement was the one that raised my eyebrows the most. I didn't expect to hear that from him. That certainly puts a whole new spin on what you might weigh more as selection criteria.

 

Well JVG claims Morey has no say "yet" in it either.

 

After he sounded bitter on the radio the other day that no starters were there and he wanted to deal the pick and he wanted a long athlete he completey changes his tune and no longer sounds bitter.

It looks as if Carroll Dawson maybe even Les might have had a talk with him and said something like look this is what we are going to do and either get on board or ship out.

 

To me, that gives away what we are going to do. We are going to take a player that can shoot the basketball and has the potential to improve our defense. That points to either Redick, Carney, or Morrison, Bargnani, Roy, Gay, if they fall (not likely).

 

CD said a while back that we hope to draft a big guard who can shoot.

JVG says shooting is priority 1, 2, and 3. he went on to say that you draft offense and teach defense.

JJ Redick is said to have a top 10 promise. from seattle? no. they are looking to trade the pick. from golden state? no. o'bryant is thier man. can you see JJ going earlier than #8? hell no. the promise (if true) had to be us.

now, we are also looking into trading up to get a shot at morrison who is probably a safer bet than JJ with just as good of a jumper. I have a feeling though, that most teams will be able to offer the raps or bulls more than we can.

 

Morrison reminds me of a poor mans's Peja.

 

I believe that was speculation due to him pulling out of the Orlando workout. Which was before it was known that he was arrested for DUI and of his back problems.

 

I tend to agree that this is the implication.

 

LOL. I agree. I would have to see JJ outdefend Wesley to believe it

 

Boki made it to pick 15 off his practice exhibition to tell you the value on shooters. Anybody want him back? He's probably available.

 

Anyone have a source for this?

 

What's funny about all these talks about how a player shoots in a work out is that it really don't translate over into real, game-time situations.

A person can hit 23 out of 24 3 point shots in practice, but would that percentage translate over into real game-time situations? Haven't seen it happen yet. I personally think that if a player is said to have perimeter shooting as their strength, he should hit at least 60% of their practice shots. That way, at least you know the guy has range and can hit it fairly well. How he performs in a real game is another story.

 

Better watch out, saying JJ and Manu in the same sentence - I did that a few days ago and people basically called me insane.

However, it really goes to your point; guys with superlative hoops IQ's are able to do things, especially on the defensive end, that most people would otherwise assume that they simply cannot do. Knowing how to get steals, being able to read offenses, anticipate and get into passing lanes, taking charges, boxing out, avoiding fouls - these are all things which have less to do with pure athleticism than with intelligence and desire.

I think Redick is going to have a huge chip on his shoulder, and he has shown pretty convincingly that he has a good basketball mind. He's a better athlete than people originally have surmised, he's bigger than people thought, and he can handle and drive better than people give credit for. To me, the comparisons with Ginobili are really not that far off base, but we'll just have to wait and see.

I would not cry if we took him at #8, but it sure would be nice if we could find a way to swing JJ *and* Brewer .. that would be awfully sweet.

 

Not necessarily.

The scenario might involve more than two teams in a trade, but we just might pull it off.

If defense is less of an issue, then move up for Morrison, move TMac back to the 2, and make sure we're not sucking at the 4 when we include Stromile in a deal to who knows what team.

 

Well his D is bad and he is kind of slow, but Morrison has a hell of a one on one game.

I mean this kid has Bird/Dream type one on one moves.

He can get his shot against anyone any time anywhere.

 

Don't think Manu, he doesn't have his quickness, think Chris Mullin. Can shoot from anywhere. Does things not because he's an awesome athlete but because his basketball IQ is higher than most. He's in the right place at the right time that makes guys like him seem better than he is at his weak spots. He may have Wade's athleticism but he isn't on the same planet as Wade in explosion or change of pace. He won't shut anyone done on defense but guys with his motor always are a pest.

At first when I saw him play I thought of Bryce Drew. But this kid is so much more, bigger, his motor never seems to stop and he seems to play with a chip on his shoulder. He doesn't just play he talks smack. That's also a reason I think he'll be better than you may think, he's got attitude which translates into I'll work as hard as I have to to be good. An I'll show you you were wrong to dis me attitude. He'll be a good pick, you won't be disappointed.

 

How would Mr. Morey quantify defensive stats anyway? Seems subjective.

 

I kind of liken Redicks game to a Kirk Hinrich, with a little less defense and a better shooter. In fact he is probably a better shooter than most of the players in the NBA.

 

i would hope that we can pull something like that off. however, i will stick by my first point that the other 5 teams can offer more.

here are the 6 teams looking to trade up and thier possible trading chips:

HOUSTON: #8, stro, luther.
Minnesota: #6, davis, jaric.
Boston: #7, allen, dickau
Phoenix: #21, #27. i doubt they want to move amare, marion, diaw, bell, nash, kurt, or barbosa. I think our offer beats thiers.
Portland: anyone on the roster, #4.
Charlotte: #3, Knight

if i were the Raptors, i would look no further than the Blazers or Bobcats' offers.

if i were the Bulls, i don't think the Bobcats or Blazers would make an offer to move up 1 or 3 spots, so after them I think the Wolves or Celtics offers make the most sense for thier team.

I'll just be happy if we have a healthy run over the next 3 years, and count our blessings that we are able to draft anyone as high as we are drafting.