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[SPORTS] Winner in 100-0 girls game wants forfeit

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by SwoLy-D, Jan 22, 2009.

  1. arkoe

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    To me, this is on par with being fired for being too awesome at your job.
     
  2. eMat

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    That is the absurdest reason for firing someone I can imagine. Can he sue?
     
  3. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    When a team is up 59-0 at half time, is there any reason to be running a full court press in the 3rd quarter? There are other values you are expected to teach, especially in a Christian high school. Humiliation is not one of them.
     
  4. FlyerFanatic

    FlyerFanatic YOU BOYS LIKE MEXICO!?! YEEEHAAWW
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    bingo. you dont tell kids to not try their hardest, but to full court press? come on now
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    What kind of lesson do you teach by firing the guy?

    How very forgiving.......errrrr.....Christian of them.

    :rolleyes:

    DD
     
  6. Major Malcontent

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    I think he could have kept his job...even without apologizing himself if he hadn't gone out of the way to contradict his boss when his boss apologized.
     
  7. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    The coach brought national embarassment to his employer by humilating a much lesser team and continuing to use tactics that weren't necessary in order to play/win the game handily. It would have been real simple to run a normal defense and have his team work the clock and shoot mid-range jumpers all the while allowing his team to continue to play hard, but he chose an unsportsmanlike route.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    I don't doubt for a minute he could have been more sportsmanlike...they probably got caught up in trying to score 100 points.

    However, a better lesson could be learned by TEACHING rather than firing.

    DD
     
  9. Hayesfan

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    The guy shouldn't have been fired.. he should have been repremanded. Though maybe this isn't the first time he's been warned.. who knows.

    The coach of the other team maybe should have been fired.

    I don't care how un-athletic or non talented your team is. They should be able to score a point. Especially to beat a press, there are so many holes in a high school press it's not even funny. That's just poor coaching and being unprepared that they couldn't do it.

    On the other hand, obviously this guy who is coaching the 100 point team doesn't have kids. If he had he would have pulled them off. There is nothing worse than having to explain to a kid that as long as they did their best its okay, when they have lost by a huge margin.

    If you are up by that many at halftime. You work on something to practice in the second half. You don't continue to do what is working. You expand on it and work on something new. There is no reason to force the issue. If the other team was that poor, they could have scored the 100 points and not pressed.

    As a coach myself, I hate to lose, and I want my kids to learn to play hard. I also would never do what that coach did because playing hard and playing to humiliate are two different things.
     
  10. Steve_Francis_rules

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    I think you misheard. Cuban invited them to the owner's box to talk about a 10-day contract. He wants one of these girls to replace Josh Howard in the lineup.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    Cuban is a marketing genius.....but he has to be, his team is crap this year.

    DD
     
  12. rage

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    You can't really say this until you see the difference in the talent and physical levels of the 2 teams.
    Let's say you and your buddies play against a NBA team. If they want to, they can drop a 100 pts on you without you scoring a point.

    It's similar to saying you don't care how non talented Chuck is, he should be able to make 50% of his free throws or at least not looking so ugly at the ft line. :) Even middle schooler cans do better afterall.
     
  13. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I suspect if I brought national embarassment to my employer (especially based on something I unnecessarily did on behalf of my employer), I would be fired.

    Where is the accomplishment in scoring 100 points against a really bad team? It would be one thing to score 100 against a competitive team, but as an athlete or coach, that outcome would not be anything for me to boast about.
     
  14. bnb

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    I suspect he was fired for insubordination.

    After the school felt the need to post an official apology...he took it upon himself to publicly disagree with them in writing to the media and prolong the school's embarrassment.

    The guy just doesn't know when to back off.
     
  15. Lil Pun

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    After bobrek's explanation and bnb's sentiment and reading a little more about the situation, I can say I do not disagree with the firing.
     
  16. rage

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    I agree with this completely.
    There is more to sports than to win and humiliate your opponents. It's very easy to beat up on weaker kids. That does not prove anything except to show your character, in a negative way.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    Thank God our Rockets are doing their share by letting the lesser opponents win a few.

    That is what you mean, right?

    ;)

    DD
     
  18. Hayesfan

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    If they are that different physically and talent wise they never should have been playing one another in the first place.

    What exactly did those kids on the 100 point team learn?

    Plus, me and my buddies would never play against an NBA team... so the point is moot.

    In the world of high school basketball you are going to have team that you are much better than, or much worse than, that's just the way it is. But to not score a point is just nuts... and I still blame their coach.

    Edit: If I was the coach of that team that lost... I would have had them fouling the other girls in the fourth on every possession. Until the whole team fouled out.

    If the coach of the winning team was going to play like an arse... I would have my team playing like arses too.
     
  19. MadMax

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    He's an adult, DaDa. If he doesn't already know, they have the wrong man for the job. That has zilch to do with forgiveness. They can forgive him and still think he's not the right guy for the job.
     
  20. rocketsjudoka

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    Coming into this late. I agree the coach should've been fired for undermining his employer. He might not have liked the decision of the school but that's not his call to make publically and he should've kept his disagreement private.

    As for running up the score as a coach myself I can sympathize somewhat as you want your players to always give their best but at the sametime there is no sense in humiliating your opponent. I've also noticed that a lot of time players who do things like humiliating opponents by running up the score or showboating not only end up being poor winners but also poor losers since bad sportmanship affects all aspects of how you play the game.

    For me personally I find there is much more value in getting beaten by a far superior oponent than crushing a far inferior opponent. There's nothing to be learned from an effortless victory, it breeds a false sense of confidence, and most importantly doesn't instill in players the kind of mental toughness it takes to be a good competitor.

    Finally in Judo one of our tenets is mutual benefit and welfare. We bow to our opponents to show that we respect them for coming out and competing against us. We play sports not for our survival but because we love the game and needlessly humiliating an inferior opponent isn't about love of the game. Its about stoking your own ego.
     

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