Get Artest. I want to see Van Gundy run on the court and get in the middle of as many fights as possible.
Damn, you're good. I checked Larry C.'s FAQ on realgm and yep, a player can be traded two months after the last trade. Pollard would be a more-than-adequate backup. Now you can make a trade, with Cato/Cato and Artest/Pollard as the main players being moved. That I could see happening.
That was my thought also. Cato improved last year but I think he is at his ceiling, and I worry about his ablity to catch and throw!
Who cares about the backup center?!?!? We can just sign Jason Collier back or get Charles Oakley or Vladamir Stepania...y'all say Cato was very efficient in rebounding...well Stepania was like #1 in rebounds per 48 minutes. Cato was #4...and Stepania only requires minimum. Cato is a good backup..but that's it. Anyways, maybe he won't respond to Jeff Van Gundy. Will Cato like JVG yelling at him? I think he did very well under Rudy because Rudy encouraged him....and Cato is still making 7 million a year. I love Cato...but... But RON ARTEST is the best defender in the NBA. He is 6-7. 240 pounds. He is only 23 years old. Cato is like 28 years old already. Artest is respected around the NBA. He is a decent ballhandler and passer. But he is one of the league leader in steals! Cato for Artest? I would definitely do it for the Rockets!!! Now why would the Pacers do it? Mobley/Cato for Artest/Pollard? No thanks....I'd rather keep Mobley. But I don't think Mobley and Artest could play very well together...Artest and Yao could coexist if each did his own thing... Artest is definitely better than Glen Rice, Adrian Griffin, Bostjan Nachbar, James Posey, Terence Morris, Juaquin Hawkins, Eric Piatkowski, or Eddie Griffin at small forward. He has been quite crazy though...which could be a problem! I like Sane's trade...if we could get Brent Barry instead...that would be great.
Few things. First, I really don't think Artest is a nut case. No doubt he's weird, but I think his antics last year were just the result of him reacting badly to Isiah's insistence that he become the Pacers' tough guy. Second, the article says that it would make sense for Cato and Artest to be traded. What I want to know is, how? This doesn't seem to make sense at all from Indy's POV.
I agree with you...Artest isn't that much of a nut case. He is kinda violent though. But he can mature. Not really that weird. But there have been many rumors about Rick Carlisle not getting along with Artest and wanting to move him...but not sure.
Uh, why not? He was the one who was actually 2nd in rebs. per 48 minutes, not Cato. We're talking about maybe 15 minutes a game at center for a guy who becomes a fixture at the SF slot. Sure, in general you don't trade big for small, but when the big is going to be backing up bigger (Yao), and the small is a 23 year old stud defender with a nasty streak and offensive skills to boot, you make exceptions. BTW, your trade is horrible for Indy. Artest, Harrington, Tinsley, and Jones for Cato? That's 4 under 25 first round picks for a solid center.
Okay, didn't know that about Foster... I already said that it is totally unlikely that my trade would ever happen. I did not know about the trade exception and was just trying to figure something out that would work...
It is a great starter for a good back-up! If we have Artest, we may even make the 2nd round play-off!
I don't care for that trade for several reasons: 1. Cato is a more than serviceable backup center, the rarest of commodities in the size-starved NBA. 2. Artest is a damned headcase, a ticking time bomb that could go at any time. I don't give a damn how talented he is, he is a locker room cancer, the kind of guy with the talent to carry a team, but the 10-cent head to tear it apart. If the Rox trade for that idiot, they deserve everything they get for it. Say what you will about Cato, but at least he doesn't have a childlike temper.
Personally, I don't think Indy will bite unless we throw in Nachbar or someone like that. I think getting rid of Cato,Taylor or Moochies contract should be the priority for this team. After suckers have been suckered all summer, I'm not sure if there or anymore left. Many will think I want to just give the season up, but its not like that at all. I had proposed a deal earlier regarding GS, before Dallas pulled the trigger with them. I will bring back a more modified version. Houston trades K.Cato to GSW for A. Foyle. What does this do? AFoyle is a fa after this season and so is Dampier, so Cato can be the starter there for the next 2 or 3 yrs. Foyle can give the rockets the same thing as Cato and after this season they can either let him walk or resign for less. After the season, Houston can lose a 6m and 9m contract. Taylor and Norris might be a little more difficult to move unless they are packaged with someone like Mobley who has a good value as far as contracts are concerned. Taylor, albeit a good offensive player, his contract and toughness still makes him hard to move. Scan around the league and think about a team who can use Taylor and what the Rox can get back in return. Many will jump at sending him to the big man challenged east, but its hard to find 5 teams that have something we want in return for Taylor. You might can argue Boston with Walker if you want to make him your sf which he really plays. Atl, but I'm not sure they want to give up SAR.Chi,Orl,Det,NJ,NY,N.O.,Milw, and the other seem to be set or at least have prospects at that spot. I'mn pretty sure we're stuck with Taylor.
here you go... throw in J. O'Neal and i'd like the trade! actually, to get J.O. we'll have to give Steve too. would you do this trade? Steve+E.G.+Nachbar for J. O'Neal+Artest+Tinsley? line-up for Houston: Yao Ming, Cato J. O'Neal, Taylor R. Artest, Griffin C Mobley, Pike J. Tinsley, Norris trade Steve for a true point and then upgrade E.G. to J. O'Neal, and get Artest to play the 3-spot. i don't know if i'd do it...
that would give us the best defencive team in the nba. I don't even see how we would have scoring problems with that team either. the only problem is, O'neal wants artest and tinsley gone. moving all 3 to a new team won'tmake them like eachother.
