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[Sporting News] The Baseline sees all - Houston Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Oct 5, 2009.

  1. pdewalt

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    I agree or he would be forcing something that isn't there but we know that people will say only T-Mac did that... Brooks takes questionable shots that just so happened to go in and we know that if those shots didn't he would be tortured on this board right now.

    But DD, thanks for posting all of the information on this one thread!!
     
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    i really wouldnt be surprised if mac is back by mid nov.... out early feb :(
     
  3. Dave_78

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    We know Brooks pushes the ball every single time he has the opportunity. We know McGrady never did that. I'll take the guy looking to get himself or a team mate a transition bucket over a guy who dribbles 8 times at the top of the key before darting a step forward and then launching a fall-away 19 footer.
     
  4. abc2007

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    They have different play styles. You like Brooks' style and that is good for you. But, we all know that Tmac has much much more fans than Brooks.

     
  5. Dave_78

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    I didn't realize we were arguing over who has more fans. I thought we were comparing a guy who goes to the rim quickly in transition vs. the guy who walks it up and takes a jump shot.
     
  6. abc2007

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    You said you like Brooks' style. But, obviously, there are many fans who like Tmac's style.

     
  7. Dave_78

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    I like the guy who takes the easier shot. Do you disagree that transition buckets are a better option over contested jump shots?

    It's really about the style of play and not the individual person. I'm surprised you didn't understand that.
     
  8. abc2007

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    Tmac was always doubled, he had to take some contested jump shots sometimes. I hope other teams leave him open this season.

    You are actually surprised that there are people who like Tmac's playing style. ;)
     
  9. Dave_78

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    Are you denying that, despite all of his athleticism and ball handling skills, McGrady was not interested in running with the ball.

    Many of McGrady's double-teams were a result of his casual approach to offense. Watch the tape, he waited until the defense was set before he even started to make his move. Brooks (and Lowry) both look for a transition bucket the minute they get the ball on offense.
     
  10. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    A pure canard, Tmac was not doubled at all last year, and teams have been doubling him less and less.....they lay off and hope he shoots that long jumper which he misses so much.

    Not at all, there are darwin awards for those types of people.

    :D

    DD
     
  11. abc2007

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    Are you denying that, many of Tmac's double-teams were a result of coachs' request?

    btw, you shouldn't use last season tmac's performance as examples. We all know that he was injured.
     
  12. abc2007

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    He was injured last year, and that is why he had a surgery. You don't know?!

     
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    Well, if we're going on history, teams that run n gun have less success than teams that play the slow, half court game. Our new up tempo style will be fun to watch, but I don't think that style has been proven to win championships. You can correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  14. Dave_78

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    The great teams always looked for transition buckets first. They didn't force them and when they were not there they slowed down and ran a half court offense.

    I'm discussing players anyway. Do you prefer a guy who doesn't look for easy buckets over one who does?
     
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    Ah, good 'ol prejudice; what progressive thinking!
    Great point, let's keep an injured player over a healthy one; from experience, Rockets fans know that's a great strategy.
    22 game winning streak was a total fluke, I agree. Rockets ain't s***.

    GREAT ARTICLE. :cool:
     
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    I don't have a good feeling about Carl Landry this year. I haven't heard any positive things about him thus far in training camp. Feigen reported that he didn't seem to be in as good a shape compared to this time last year. And in the offseason, I remember him making a comment that suggested he doesn't have the same athleticism he had as a rookie.
     
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    he probably wasted the entire summer chatting on facebook.....and getting back at contacts who deleted him for improper wall posts
     
  18. Dave_78

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    Perhaps the shooting incident has changed his perspective on life and basketball.
     
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    I think you're forgetting that he was never the same after a knee injury during his rookie season. He had surgery on that knee in the following off-season. It was his second knee surgery (first one in college).
     
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    if t-mac is a ball stopper, than kobe bryant, lebron James, D-wade, Paul pierce, and Joe johnson are ball stoppers as well. if i could think of some more wings i would but not to many are in this same caliber. i dont like the term used for mcgrady as a ball stopper. If he is your "playmaker" that so many of u say the rockets need, why would you want him to be passive, making other guys forced to create there own shot, which most of them cant do. If t-mac is gonna be a playmaker he needs the ball in his hands, just like any other player on a team who is asked to be a scorer and a facilitator. There is a reason why he is our best passer, and pretty much best all around player. I dont want him out there trusting scola too much to get his own shot up, or having hayes pull off some low post moves. No t-mac gets them easy buckets by having the ball in his hands. Another thing he does well is playing off the pick, and deciding to either drive pull up or find an open man. Now how can he do this if he isnt gonna have the ball in his hands?
     

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