(sportime.gr) V-Span to discuss future with Morey today

Due to injuries, JVG was forced to play him. Even JVG has admitted that he really never wanted Luther during the draft, but it was a CD/Lindsey choice.

I guess we could say that Luther is the one exception that proves the rule.

Too bad Rafer's stress fracture happened last year, this team would have been better with V-Span getting some minutes at the PG spot.....

DD

 

Nope, practices are rare in the nba they have loaded schedules as they travel around the country during the season...

 

On this I fully agree with DaDakota. In practice all the players are always the same and know the plays that are being practiced. In actual games there are new wrinkles that must be learned while experiencing the pressure of an actual game. During a real game the coach won't stop the action (very often) to provide instruction.

 

OK guys, after reading the last three pages since I have last been on clutchfans I can tell you three things

1.99% chance Gundy is gone and Rockets (I belive) will target Del Harris
2.If he is gone 90+% chance Spanoulis is here
3.Morey and Lyndsey (yes Dennis pushed for Span to get drafted and CD drafted him) have both told Span he is "very much in their future plans"

Span will be a rotation player next year, this will all play out in the next 2 weeks.

Yes the coach of his club team in Greece wants him back but if I had to bet, I would bet on Spanoulis being a rotation player for the Rockets.

 

Cohen,

The reason I don't buy into the practice bit, is that teams RARELY practice once the season starts.

They are busy preparing for the next game and the other team's tendencies, and coaches put most of their efforts into players that they are going to use, and very little effort into bench players.

Most practices are at a walking pace, where the bottom of the bench stands in for the up comming opponent, and they WALK through the other team's plays.

At least that is how Larry Brown did things when I was working at KSat 12 in San Antonio in the Sports department and covering the Spurs.

Teams just don't practice all that much during the regular season, so IMO, once JVG made up his mind that V-Span/Synder/Wells/Novak/JL3 were not gonig to be in the rotation, he spent very little time developing them.

DD

 

So is this your guesstimation?

 

Did you see the JVG quote in January where he was talking about the next practice being over a week away, which was why Snyder hadn't gotten into the rotation again?

They just do not practice all that much during the season.

DD

 

The fallacy here is that JVG played his Top 7 to the end even when we were ahead by 20 points with minutes to go -- time and time again he did not trust the bench at all to relieve the starters.

 

Nope.

http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2007/02/we_talkin_about_practice_not_a.html

Notice how they're surprised to 'get so many days off', in other words, they expect to practice almost every non-game day, with shoot-arounds (what you're likely referring to) on game days. It apparently is reduced as the season progresses.

And as for speed... 'They are intense from start to finish. There is no slowdown before the shooting drills at the end, either. It's full speed until Jeff Van Gundy calls the team together at the end.

 

Nope that's a well known fact, there's MINIMAL time for practices during the year,
everyone works on his game during the summer...

 

And there is no guarantee that playing younger players is going to cost the team victories?

Maybe at the beginning of the year, but by the end, it should have evened out.

DD

 

Guess somneone needs to tell the coaches and players...

http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2007/02/...tice_not_a.html

 

Did you READ the whole blog? About how veterans that come in are stunned at how many days off JVG gives them, or about how he protects the players legs when games are to be played.

Again.....practices are few and far between....during the season.

DD

 

Didn't you learn?

We already knew Spanoulis transcends statistical comparisons; he also transcends direct quotes.

 

Did you not comprehend the article? They expect few days off, meaining ot is customary to practice a lot.

 

No, your point is nonsense because he never mentions how often they practice, he just says practices are hard but he gives many days off to the players... So you do the math and tell me how often they practice when they play 3 games a week, the get their days off and they have to travel half of the time...

 

So every rookie who looks lousy at the start of the season will not only progress, but will 'make up' for early season losses by winning more games? So if we're winning at 70% near the end of the season... we'll win at what, 80% with a rookie who rec'd playing time?

I don't think you should consider a career in coaching...

 

Yes, here is the main thrust.

"
But Van Gundy is absolutely determined to save legs for the games. This time of year, even with the Rockets' loose schedule the past couple weeks, he won't wear them out on the Toyota Center's second floor when there are games to be played on the first floor.

As Rafer said, when veterans come to town, they are always stunned by how often Van Gundy gives them a day off. Even more surprising is that he does not seem to tie when the Rockets practice to how they played the night before.

I asked him about that his first season here, when he had a team that seemed to desperately need all the practice time it could get, and he said he doesn't schedule practices based on how the team plays because he knows himself. If it were about needing to make corrections, he would never give them a day off. Instead, he said he considers how the practices will impact the team physically, making his practice schedule with a look at the game schedule and the calendar more than the game tapes."


Sure sounds like they don't have a lot of practice time, but when they do....they go at it hard.

Which is EXACTLY what everyone has been saying.....they don't practice much during the regular season.

DD

 

The practice disagreement is picking nits. The real issue is the fact JVG did not use his full rotation of players. The Jazz killed us with fresh players who were more athletic in the first place than any of our players not named McGrady.

He did not use the full rotation because he does not trust young players new to the team or new to the NBA. He does not develop them -- he just ignores them and runs the Top 7 into the ground so that their legs are dead at playoff time.

Sloan used his full complement of resources while JVG did not. It's the principal reason he badly outcoached Van Gundy.

 

All I am saying is that when you team has obvious weaknesses at a position and you have a rookie player at that position, you should take the time DURING the regular season to develop that player.

Because you KNOW that Rafer is not going to EVER get it done...NEVER...EVER....EVER !!!

So, the team should be finding out if V-Span is part of the future....and if so....start getting him ready TODAY....because Tmac and Yao's championship window is small - 3-5 years.

Therefore you need to find players that can make it happen......

It was clear to me and many others that the players in the rotation this year were NEVER going to win anything.....

So, play hard, but find out if the pieces on the bench are going to be part of the future....

Tony Parker and Manu Ginobli did not win it all their first year, but they sure look good now....don't they?

And TP was a 19 year old PG.....NINETEEN !!! And Pops played him because he knew in the end....it would make his team better.

JVG.....well he is bald.

DD