(sportime.gr) V-Span to discuss future with Morey today

The reason that Spanoulis did not get the minutes that Parker, Ginobili, and Cassell got:
Parker
FG% - .419
3pt% - .323
A/TO - 2.15

Ginobili
FG% - .438
3pt% - .345
A/TO - 1.43

Cassell
FG% - .418
3pt% - .296
A/TO - 2.05

Spanoulis
FG% - .338
3pt% - .192
A/TO - 0.96

As you can see, V-SPAN is the worst in all three categories (I used only the ones that do not put him at an unfair disadvantage because of his reduced minutes), sometimes spectacularly so. You can't be a rotation PG if you have an A/TO ratio of less than 1, there just isn't a coach that is going to play you a lot of minutes with those results, especially if you can't shoot. I don't know why DaDa keeps mentioning these players in relation to V-SPAN. They got more minutes because they were better.

 

StupidM,

None of those players were asked to play out of their comfort zone and put in a system and position in which they were not prepared.

I freely admit that V-Span is not a catch and shoot player, yet......but whenever he was inserted into the lineup for the most part that is what he was asked to do...and not surprisingly he struggled.

I believe that given consistent minutes at the PG position you would see similar production from V-span.

DD

 

I'm also Greek, and if this is true - as much as I hope Spanoulis succeeds - then f him.

Who the hell does he think he is?

Fine, maybe he was oversold (I stress maybe). Fine, maybe he's upset.

So?

He's not freaking Lebron!

He can't come in here making demands like that one year in.

Again, if this is true, and I'm hoping it is not, then good riddance to him. Bench players (and rookie bench players at that) who make demands of an NBA team in this fashion are a cancer - and that's the last thing this team needs.

I wouldn't mind JVG going, but it is absolutely not Spanoulis' place to say things like this.

 

I love vspan's attitude! We could use more players who show his heart and passion.

 

If you read the post, V-Span didn't say anything. It is all the coach etc of his old team.

Of course they would like to have him back....

But, he is under contract with the Rockets.

DD

 

You can say VSpan is not ready and turnover prones or he is played out of position etc etc. that JVG will play a rookie if he was ready!

But i did remember reading some reports and quotes here in Clutchfans.net last summer that even before VSpan played a single NBA game, JVG said VSpan is not ready for NBA or something like JVG didnt wish to have Vspan. Maybe the admin can help to find this thread.

What I m trying to say here is, right from the begining, JVG dont like VSpan. For whatever we dont know, maybe he viewed Vspan's tape and he just have some opinions against Vspan. So I m not that suprised, JVG not willing to play Vspan!

 

Was his catch an shoot trouble what caused him to turn the ball over so prolifically? Is it that hard to accept that he was not ready to contribute this season? Do you really think he was lighting it up in practice but JVG thought that he would rather lose games than play V-SPAN because of some comment he made to a Greek paper? I think he has potential, but he needs more work, and that can be worked on when the games don't count. What he did not have was the NBA readiness of the players you and others insist on comparing him to. That is why his stats were horrifically bad and he couldn't take 8-10 minutes away from Rafer Alston.

 

I haven't read any posts in this thread save this one - but anyway I just want to note that this item was in yesterday' morning's chronicle from Feigen's rockets notes and that it was obviously cirbbed from there.

PS, I bet DaDakota is telling half-truths in this thread.

 

Lue got traded cause his poor defence led to Yao getting in foul trouble.

 

........and yes, here you go. You've been told this numerous times but the fact that you're pitching Spanoulis as a pure PG is an outright lie. He wasn't in Greece. And for good reason - he's not that good at passing. He's got one dimension I've seen - driving to the hole. Nice but not enough for me to get hot and bothered..

PS, Tony Parker - Ginobili - Casselll - whoever - comfort zone or not they were much better players - even in thier initial limited minutes, than Spanoulis ever was this year. You don't want to acknowledge it, because Spanoulis is one of your favorites, but it's just true.

 

Actually Tony Parker had to play out of his comfort zone and had problems with it. Remember all the talk of him not being the right PG for the team and that Pop wanted to get rid of him and make a run at Kidd?

And really, TP and Manu played b/c they were good players that happened to be ready to adjust to the NBA game right away (and 1st round picks, I think)

I agree with you that JVG didn't play him enough in the regular season and he does have the potential to be a good player (If he can ever learn to shoot, which he should).

But comparing him right now to TP and MG is kind of stretching it, IMHO

Anyways, I do hope we go in a new direction and, more importantly, make some roster changes as well.

 

DD - read it again - first para.

Paraphrasing, but he said that Vspan spoke to the Rox, and it's "clear" that if JVG stays, Vspan heads back to the homeland.

Sounds like an ultimatum, no?

 

There are so many problems in this argument, I couldn't even go to the next page and wait to see if someone pointed them out.

1) You don't know for a fact they played regardless of mistakes. Popovich, to this day, will BENCH Ginobili's ass if he does something wrong.

2) The stats don't prove anything either way, you're right. But there is no stat that can show they wouldn't be just as good or better if they were treated differently on day 1. Nothing.

3) If V-Span breaks out next year, you cannot infer that it's because he got more time. Tehre are so many other variables/factors involved in the process. You can easily say that he improved because JVG drilled him in practice for a year. You can say that he's better because he realized he needs to wrk hard this summer. There are lots of conclusions you can come to, but it is virtually impossible for you to say that "He played well this season and that means for sure that he would've been this good last season."

 

lol the haters come out usally at night time

hello

 

Well I really hope Vspan stays in the Rockets. but there is nothing wrong with him leaving IF he is not considered in the teams plans for next season. What good coaches do in the off-season is that look at the rosters and tell the players they aren't going to use to find another team. the problem was that Billy wasn't JVG's choice. That's the main reason why he didn't get any playing time.

Like is said before i really like the guy and hope he'll stay in the rockets. If he does returns to Pao though .... I have some coins and a lighter with his name on it....

 

All those other players didn't get sporadic game time. Parker & Cassell proved themselves from the get go. Manu is the better comparison but he got steady game time even though his numbers weren't good.

 

I think this sums up my feelings completely. I just don't care what Alston can or might be able to do because I knew from the start of the season that he would turn in a pathetic playoff performance if not a complete choke. Why bother with Alston when there is ABSOLUTELY NO FUTURE there? I don't care how bad the other guys are. Lucas and Spanoulis deserve time to learn in games because we knew Alston was not the answer.

Alston was horrible all year. It must have been torture for Spanoulis. I don't blame him for a second for leaving the Rockets or talking to the press. It shows me he cares. The career of a professional athlete doesn't leave time to screw around sitting on a bench. Life is short.

 

Span can play. thats the bottomline...

 

I don't even know how good V Span is or can be w. playing time.

Slavery was abolished. Screw the contract. A person has a right to quit an employment contract. Negotiate or complain your way out of it.

What would the Rockets' damages be?

 

EXACTLY !!!

DD