(sportime.gr) V-Span to discuss future with Morey today

I agree if he quits it will piss me off and I will jump off his jock.....he should stay.

That being said....imagine you are V-Span and you watched Rafer Alston SUCK ALL FRICKEN YEAR LONG, and you know in your heart that you are better than him...not by a little bit, but by a LOT A BIT.......but yet, your coach will not let you play to get comfortable with the speed of the NBA game.

And, when you do play, you are asked to play out of position and shoot long range jump shots.

Frustration would not begin to describe it.

DD

 

as a professional basketball player i would know that i sucked when i had my chance. i would also know that i should work harder in practice.

it would tell a whole lot about our management if they really promised more than the chances he had...

 

Or, you would know that you struggled because you were playing out of position and being asked to do things on the offensive end that you were not particularly good at......like shoot 3-pters.

I am sure he feels that he needs to improve, all GOOD players do, but he is probably also pissed off that his team struggled mightily at an area in which he is very adept (attacking the basket) and due to JVG's enormous ego, he never got a chance to help.

I can understand his frustration 100%....JVG did the same crap to Boki....and to many other players......

I hope he stays, and reaches his potential, because if he goes back, he will be known as a quitter.....

But, the X factor here is that he is under contract and the Rockets don't have to let him out of it.....nor should then, IMO.

DD

 

Ha Ha Ha Ha! ROTFLMAO!!! OK, this was hyperbole right? Spanoulis as the next Tony Parker! Thanks ever so much...it's been a long hard day and I really needed that good laugh.

 

Or you would remain confidence in your skills and know that you only didn't get to play cause the coach didn't like you and would rather sit you then win a playoff series with you playing.

 

laugh it up, Tony Parker became what he is today by playing.....V-Span could develop along those lines too.

He is more highly touted coming into the league than TP was.

DD

 

sorry

but your track record of defending JVG and Alston for few years is something to consider, you might want to throw your And1 Mixtapes in a corner, it ain't like that

 

Ok, lets look at another journeyman guard that Van Gundy had.

Tyronne Lue

Under Van Gundy
Year Team G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
04-05 HOU 21 3 22.8 .393 .333 .778 0.0 1.9 1.9 2.8 0.4 0.0 1.14 2.30 6.0

Under Mike Woodson
Year Team G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
04-05 ATL 49 46 31.2 .464 .364 .871 0.3 1.9 2.2 5.4 0.5 0.0 1.65 2.40 13.5

As you can see, under Woodson, Lue developed into a player with major minutes. 5.4 APG scoring 13.5 ppg playing only 31.2 mpg. Lue is a player that can flat light up the scoreboard when he wants to. His 3 pt percentage isn't bad either. Under Van Gundy Lue was a benchwarmer getting limited minutes and played in very few games. At Atlanta he's a major contributor.

2007
Apr 17 vs. IND W 118-102 25pts
Apr 16 @ MIL L 102-96 25 11pts
Apr 14 @ CLE L 110-76 10pts
Apr 13 vs. WAS L 85-98 16pts
Apr 10 vs. BOS W 104-96 26pts
Apr 8 @ PHI L 109-104 47 24pts
Apr 6 vs. MIL W 115-102 16pts
Apr 4 @ NJN L 101-86 34 7pts
Apr 1 vs. CHI L 97-105 24 15pts


I'm telling ya, Lue was Vspan in Houston during the 04-05 season. V-Span has the right to be pissed off. Cause this is a trend I see over and over. We trade off our guys and they become stars on other teams.

 

Rudy only played Boki in 18 games.



EDIT: also, some of the blame should go to CD for not being on the same page with the coach and making promises that he might not be able to keep.

The coach decides who plays in most organizations, not the GM

 

give me a break.... you are kidding me?
V-Span might have potential....but for now, Rafer >>> V-Span, it's not even close.

 

No it's not even about potential. Vspan is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rafer.

 

OK, please explain to me when JVG & Carroll Dawson exchanged job titles because last time I looked it was CD doing all of the trading.

Actually, it is more important to win as many games as possible in order to save your job but I digress here.

If the Rockets' fate ultimately rested on whether or not guys like Spanoulis, Novack & JL3 were "developed", then they were doomed from the get go. I find it highly amusing that you are comparing this franchise to San Antonio because in terms of well run franchises they are amongst the NBA elite while the Rockets organization is the ultimate meatball.

I simply cannot wait to see how long it takes you to turn on the next head coach when he also fails to harnish all of that vast unrealized basketball talent in Spanoulis, Novack and JL3. I'll bet that the rest of the league is just quivering in their boots at the possibility of those three busting out. Now, you want JVG gone because you consider him to be the root of all that's wrong with this team. OK. Forget about those 5 years in the lottery which netted you only 1 player. Forget all of those bad contracts given out by "Mr. Perfect" aka CD that wiped out their room under the salary cap. Forget about all of the wasted drafts since 1999 that yielded only 2 rotation players. Forget about the endless parade of marginal and forgettable bodies in a Rockets uniform through here ala Moochie Norris.

Oh no. The true reason this team fell short was because of the head coach so let's go out and kiss up to Larry Brown. Let's go pluck a Rick Adelman out of the NBA recycled coaches bin or maybe, let's give old Mario Ellie a shot. Yeah, let's do it because the only thing standing between the Rockets and the NBA Championship is a head coach capable of working basketball miracles.

 

I find it amazing how many people or blind to potential. So called experts can't see the kid is a winner. The Rockets biggest reason for losing to Utah was a lack of heart. In the playoffs you have to step it up a notch. And no one did it with any consistency on the Rockets. The defense failed them and that was supposed to JVG's forte. Shame on you JVG the place you hang your rep failed you in the end and you were to stubborn to adjust.

Vspan has a history playing bigger the bigger the game. Bonzi has the same M.O. Snyder was a great energy guy early in the season. Yet never where they given a chance under Van Gundy. Don't kid yourself the Rockets could have used those guys in the playoffs. This was not a team built to win a championship it was built to win 52 games in the regular season. Add that to the fact that JVG is the type of coach who only wants to win his way. Well there is more than 1 road to success and if Mr. Van Gundy wasn't so blind he would've seen that and made the adjustments. Instead of whithering a way a golden opportunity to make it to the wc finals.

All you JVG lovers can praise the man all you want but in the end he had 4 years with Yao ming Tmac for 3 and he failed to get out of the first round. If that's not failure then I don't know what is. Fortunately for VSPAN he had only 1 year to wasted under Van GUndy. He may be a great X's and O's man but he is a lousy coach. And as Bullard said he is a great guy off the court but as a couch he is miserable to be around. You only need ask Bonzi Vspan , Snyder, Francis Nachbar Cat etc to know this. and found a

 

Hillboy laughs so hard he faints...

 

That came out of JVG's mouth and it was an illustration of role on court rather than standing.

Even if VS brought up McGrady's name, we don't know if he really did, why would JVG mention it? cause he was playing the media and knew what the reaction would be. vet owns the rookie in the media game.

 

Yeah, never mind that Lue sucked for the previous six years in the league before JVG, and that Atlanta is one of the worst teams in the league. It's all JVG's fault that Lue wasn't a star for us! Damn you, JVG.

 

If the GM is making a coach play a player, he needs to be fired on the spot. And if the GM is hiring a coach and demanding that the coach play a 2nd round pick who's shown nothing in the NBA yet, he should be shot.

 

http://www.82games.com/0607/0607HOU.HTM

I love watching VSpan, but these numbers are U-G-L-Y.

 

Manu Ginobli only played 270 min his rookie season. VSpan played 275. What more do you want? The guy was the 60th pick like 2 yrs ago. He needs to earn playing time. Its ridiculous to think that he would get PT based on the fact that its the only way he will be become a better player. Bottom line is:

VSPAN NEEDS TO PUT IN HIS WORK N BENCH TIME JUST LIKE ANY OTHER PLAYER WOULD IN THE LEAGUE!

 

In the And1 leagues Rafer Alston was the Tracy McGrady there.