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(sportime.gr) V-Span to discuss future with Morey today

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by alex_jr, May 9, 2007.

  1. Amel

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    he will whisper in his ear

    "do not worry, Gundy is gone by the end of this month..."
     
  2. mmesser

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    Yeah, he could of got that PT in the NBDL this season. It would have been better than sitting on the pine all season.

    Everytime he did get to play this season he didnt show much Tony Parker in him, but more like Mike Wilks.
     
  3. Precision340

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    I hope that's not the case... he just needs more playing time under his belt. He has the potential to be a lot better than Rafer. Hopefully he participates in the summer games.
     
  4. YallMean

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    Do you go to your boss to discuss your future if you are content with how things are going? Like RR said, he still has two more years with us. What to discuss? As far as I know, there isnt a binding like between Euro soccer league and FIFA that club has to release its player to the national team if the national team calls upon that player.
    I dont see another Euro player in this league that is not making the rotation and not wanting to play in the summber league. If I were Vspan and wanted a future, I would be trainning hard and play in the summber league. It had been an embrassment so far.
     
  5. Cannonball

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    That's what bugged me the most regarding VSPAN. His comments about JVG trying to turn him into a spot up shooter were true. Let him play to his strength, dribble penetration, and he plays much better.

    In the preseason, the comment was made that a lot of Euro's struggle when they come to the NBA because the rules are enforced slightly differently. He got called for traveling a lot, mainly an issue with the pivot foot. Unfortunately, after preseason he rarely got in-game experience to fully work it all out.
     
  6. texanskan

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    when did he get a chance to play PG? the few times the ball was in his hand he got to the hoop at will and was able to setup teamates with good looks.

    If you don't get playing time and your a slasher like Span a high turnover rate is expected when you only get a chance every other week.
     
  7. LFE171

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    but he shot 1000% percent in a game. don't you remember that?
     
  8. Amel

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    sure, but here is the thing...IMO there is no way he will get playing time from Gundy, he will not kiss mr Gundy's ass....greek culture is totally different and it will take him at least a year or two to understand how america works....

    so what he is trying to do is hear an honest opinion on his situtation with the team, he wants to push the management to play him more and gather more information than he has to date..
     
  9. alex_jr

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    Misquoted...He never said that and he complained about being played out of position not about the mins he was getting
     
  10. alex_jr

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    So should they just keep him and not give him a chance to go back home if they're not planning on using him? That's what he wants to know....
     
  11. YallMean

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    Is that also Greek culture?

    He gets paid for two more years and he does what the club tells him to do. That's American culture, whether he likes it or not.
     
  12. YallMean

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    This is just wrong for him to do at this point of time.

    If he were smart, knowing JVG might be gone, he would be telling the management he would be staying in Houston train with the team the whole summer. Again, he is not an established player. He does what the club tells him to do. Too bad he didnt realize it before he signed with us.
     
  13. alex_jr

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    Thanks for posting this so I don't have to bother reading in the future...
     
  14. Amel

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    eh, lets say you are a basketball player, mid 20s, who loves basketball and just came to the french baskeball league...you were praised here, loved....you know what you can bring to the table, you impressed many...

    you sign a 3 year deal, 3 mil a year, first year you don't play at all...you did not impress the coaching staff: remember the diff style of play between euro and nba league...you got to get used too...you can't sleep and you miss your family and friends...but mostly you miss playing to your full potential....you have been placed to play the two, and you are just a pure PG, you like to take things into your own hands....

    please tell me, those additional 6 million will make you happy for the next two years, you would not be upset at least a bit?

    comon man, its basketball...
     
  15. YallMean

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    He should feel disgusted. He should feel angry inside. And his sole mission of this summer is to prove all his doubter that they were wrong.
    And this doesnt just happen to Vspan. Not many of us in life gets our fair chances. If you think you can do better, keep trying. If you think you dont want to stay with the company, fine, but finish your contract term first.
     
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    But he is a turnover machine :D I do not like his style of playin'
     
  17. Doctor Robert

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    Money isn't everything to everyone. VSpan clearly wants to play basketball more than anything. I would be shocked if he wasn't putting forth maximum effort to get better.

    I don't blame VSpan at all for complaining. If I were in a horrible job that was using up 1/15th of my entire career with every passing season, I would put up a heck of a fight to get what I wanted. Screw the stupid contract. Make the Rockets miserable enough to cut him if that is what it takes.

    He wouldn't have much of a case if he were 3rd string to Chauncy Billups, but he is 3rd string behind the worst point guard in the NBA, and he isn't playing or getting on the job practice time because of it. I wouldn't be the slightest bit shocked if he weren't better than Alston in the course of 5 starts.
     
  18. YallMean

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    He was given opptunities after Synder went down and he blew it. That was more opptunities than most 2nd rounder could have. Novak played even less and he was a star in college. Why Vspan is any different. If he think he is better than what he showed, he needs to prove it with the team. The new coach is not going to give him any more minutes. To me Vspan needs to have a plan to make it in the NBA, whining and discussing is not going to cut it. I still have hopes for him and that's why I am posting in this thread.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    The new coach may actually give him a real shot, whereas JVG will not.

    Did you see the post that says that during all of JVG's tenure the players that were drafted were all traded within 1.5 years, the only exception being Luther Head which is at 2.0 years.

    JVG does not play rookies, he doesn't trust them. Sometimes it is more important to develop the rookies so your team is better in the long run.

    Ala, Manu Ginobli and Tony Parker in San Antonio......Pop knew that they would struggle but he also knew that the team would be far better off once they "Got" it.

    JVG - is too rooted in the here and now and the next game to see the forest for the trees.

    DD
     
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    Ok, I'll bite with a question. How many 50th selections were players that had become millionaires playing basketball, delayed his NBA team getting him over here a year because of a fat contract, and virtually single-handedly ripped Team-USA a new one on American national television?

    Oh, come on, there's gotta be someone else...

    I know what you'll come back here with, and it will have nothing to do with the absurdity of your post.

    But now let's really play: "He gets paid for two more years and he does what the club tells him to do. That's American culture, whether he likes it or not."

    How much do you know about American culture? Do you read the Chron. business pages? Ever picked up the WSJ, or Barrons? Or for that matter, do you follow the NBA?

    Employees that have a multi-million dollar contracts are routinely bought out if they are unhappy, and it has been a business tenet for over 35 years. Books have been written about the slippery slope it is, and Morey probably has a clue about this (that's a hunch).

    If you've got some sort of psychosis about the very probable real JVG/V-Span-as-a-sympton rift in the front office. Well, party down.

    But you're far too good a poster to even pretend you're this ignorant. If you just believe miliionaires are just regular guys who sign contracts and should honor them. Well, that's cool, but don't delude yourself that "it's American".
     

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