(sportime.gr) V-Span to discuss future with Morey today

Documentation straight for the horse's mouth:

Spanoulis' stats in his last Euroleague year (2005-2006):

27:48 (mpg) 14.5(ppg) 61.7%(2pt) 36.7%(3pt) 77.9%(ft) 2.0 (reb) 3.1(Ast) 1.4 (ST) 2.6(TO) 0.0(BL)

http://217.13.116.51/plantillas/jugador.jsp?id=JUO&temporada=E05


Ginobili's stats in his last Euroleague year (2001-2002):

28:27(mpg) 15.6(ppg) 51.6%(2pt) 34.0%(3pt) 77.7%(ft) 3.8(reb) 3.0(Ast) 2.5(ST) 2.4(TO) 0.3(BL)

http://217.13.116.51/plantillas/jugador.jsp?id=AKX&temporada=E01

Spanoulis was shooting better than Manu, Manu was better in rebounding, steals and blocks...

Their TO averages were similar...

Conclusion: they were about as good in the Euroleague during their last year (for Spanoulis it was the rookie year), that is top quality players.

 

Yep, and one NBA coach recognized that by playing their new talented Euro player the team would be better, and the other NBA coach his talented rookie on the bench.

Wait a minute let me fix that...

One CHAMPIONSHIP, NBA coach recognized his Euro Rookie needed to play, while one meddling, grumbling, overbearing NBA coach sat his on the bench.

There, that is better.

DD

 

We do not need more shooters. We have 3-4 of them on the court at one time throughout the playoffs.

Shooters are easily defended if if they can only catch and shoot.

How about getting a shooter that can pump fake and step to the side and shoot. Or even a shooter that can drive a couple steps and shoot. Or a shooter that can go to the basket if closely defended?

Right now, all of Houston's shooters are forced to take a hurried shot, or pass.

Rafer, Head, Shane, Howard all all catch and shoot. They can't even take 1 dribble and shoot. Hayes is also a catch and shoot, but from 3 feet out.

That's 5 of the 7 player rotation that are only capable of catch and shoot.

Bullard is capable of more than just catch and shoot hence the nickname Air Bullard.

 

This just in!

Apparently Vspan has agreed to become a Power Dancer for the Houston Rockets. Morey felt that right now Vspan doesn't fit well in the rotation and that being a Power Dancer would keep him in shape and show off his talents. Vspan felt that this was a better fit as well.

 

LOL! Funny. This thread is amazing.

 

Update Newsflash: Jeff Van Dummy in an effort to do Damage control with the media has decided that VSPAN is not Power Dancer Material and would be better suited to pull duty as little Clutch the Bears backup. Unfortunately there is not a little Clutch the bear suit big enough to fit Vspan, so he is being relegated to the inflatable Clutch suit and will only come out in garbage time after most of the fans have exited the Toyota Center. Jeff VAN STUPIDO says that VSPAN said he was Clutch the bear in Greece, but Van r****do says Clutch the bear is Clutch the bear here.

 

.319 fg%
.172 3pt %
> 1 reb/game
1:1 As:t/o

that has WC champs written all over it

 

1) Player A have not had a chance to play.
therefore,
2) If given a chance, player A must be Larry Bird's re-incarnation.

 

Player A haven't have any chance to play. therefore,

my 1.5 million $$ was gone for nothing.
One of the best years of player A's life was wasted.
Nobody knows player A can play or not after 1 whole season.
I am going to pay him two more years for ....for what?
Trade him when his value is nothing?
develope him, hoping he can give me 1-season quility service for 3-season salary?
Why did I bring player A here in the first place?

Les is confused and asking for help.

 

Sure, but that would also mean

11.7 ppg in 26 mpg --leading scorer in a balanced team

and most importantly

World Champion runner-ups with 8-1 record--winner written all over it.

 

Thank you... very quote worthy. I didn't know this before the debate started.

 

Winner written all over it? Like the championship game where he went 1-10 including 0-6 from 3 point land in a 23 point loss to Spain missing the tournament MVP (Pau Gasol)?

Comparisons to Ginobili are silly and comparisons to Parker are even sillier. Ginobili was a 2 time Italian league MVP and the Euroleague MVP when he came over. Spanoulis was 2nd team. Parker came over 5 years younger than Spanoulis and was a first round pick.

This is beyond ridiculous.

 

Ridiculous? How? Because he never got a chance to play?

Manu and TP their rookie years were up and down, and made a lot of mistakes.....

The comparison is apt.

DD

 

The only reason you care about V-Span is because Rafer is so bad. If we had a decent PG V-Span would be just another scrub on the bench, just like Novak.

 

Very possibly, but being that Rafer is so bad, why wasn't V-Span given a chance?

The only reasonable explanation is bias by the caoch.....

DD

 

So...

Any results from this meeting being reported?

 

don't forget

Span has a likeable persona and many people sympathize him the first time they see him...sometimes this conflicts with our views at or with VSPan,

like I said, he was never given a real chance and thats where it is with me

 

Ridiculous because their respective pedigrees aren't even particularly close.

Parker made it to the league at age 19; he's only a couple months older than Spanoulis is now. Ginobili was a multi-time MVP and plays a different position.

If you can't recognize that much, this isn't a conversation worth having.

 

Not really, because we've run this comparison before. Manu and TP, through their first 300 minutes/few games/whatever - were statistically, and in reality - light years ahead of where spanoulis is now - which is why they earned a lot more playing time.

 

Uh, if you think the nickname Air Bullard was anything other than tongue in cheek I guess I won't bother bringing up "Flyin Ryan Bowen" - anyway, our spot up shooters are generally able to hit a high percentage when our superstars command double teams. The superstars were not that good vs. Utah, and the spot up shooters, even when open, were abnormally bad compared to their regular season numbers.