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SPOILER VERSION: [Game of Thrones] Season Four

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  1. DrLudicrous

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    I don't think I would consider this historical fiction. There are events from history that are used for the ideas behind some of the events but it doesn't seem like the overall story arch is from any actual events.
     
  2. Rocket River

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    Tyrion?

    Dragon/Lion/Wolf

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    only the Stag is left hanging. . . . .
     
  3. DrLudicrous

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    I think Stannis will end up being a major part in the ending. The story is called A Song of Ice and Fire and Stannis is the most powerful follower of R'hllor. I think whatever happens at the wall between the White Walkers (ice) and Stannis (fire) could be the central part of the story. I have no idea how all of the other characters will fit into that though.

    Of course fire could also refer to the dragons or Dany.
     
  4. Junkyard_Dog

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    Jon and Dany as King and Queen and Tyrion as the hand maybe? That would be cool. When the final book is released in 20 years I guess we will know, haha
     
  5. JuanValdez

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    Westoros seems a lot more green than the east. The east has a lot of desert, a large grassy plain that isn't used for agriculture, and a big smoking heap of old volantis. It seems a little incredible, really, that they'd have these big rich cities without the geographic advantages they have in the west.
     
  6. Rocket River

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    Also . . .we have little knowledge of most of it.
    While it maybe asthetically good .. it does have a nasty underbelly or corruption and crime

    I think the lack of detail favors it . . .

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  7. M.G.

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    The East is a pretty difficult place to rule. The cities aren't particularly unified, and some of the are separated by large swaths of wasteland. And power derives from money and how many sellswords you can pay. And considering sellsword captains are even less trustworthy than Littlefinger and will almost always sell out to the highest bidder, you can see the problem.

    Westeros, also, is home to Dany. It's the place where she was meant to rule. It's where usurpers murdered most of her family. That's where the glory is for Dany, not the east.
     
  8. crash5179

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    It's funny you mention this because I read an article from GRRM where he flat out states that most of his work has some sort of historical reference. One that I just discovered watching the history channel was the seige of Constantenople. They actually constructed a huge chain and pulled it across the bay to prevent ships from entering much like the chain Tyrian constructed to trap the ships in Blackwater Bay.

    Good Theory on your part and I wouldn't be completely shocked if it happens.
     
  9. hotballa

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    My only thing is I have no clue where Stannis fits in for comparison sake. He's such a major character but my knowledge of the War of the Roses is very limited beyond what i've already posted.
     
  10. JuanValdez

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    I think they may not kill off Shae in the show. In the book, they make the betrayal as brutal as possible, so when she's murdered she really has it coming, to be flip about it. The show played up Tyrion telling her off (to keep her safe) to establish the motivation for her testifying against him. So far as I know, they don't need to off Shae to further the plot. And the whole juxtaposition between Shae and Tyrion's first wife probably doesn't come in. And, it'd be kind of dick move to murder her if the reason for the betrayal is because of what he said. So, I'm betting they write that out entirely. (Though keeping it in allows them naked women and killing in one scene, which you know are two things HBO has a hard time passing on.)
     
  11. hotballa

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    I really really hope they don't kill off Tywin in the show because honestly, he's the only real villain left. the Boltons are nothing more than one trick ponies.
     
  12. LosPollosHermanos

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    Ramsey is on joffrey's level
     
  13. Junkyard_Dog

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    I think that's why they showed off the White Walkers and Night's King as they will probably start presenting more of a threat when Tywin is gone
     
  14. Rocket River

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    Could you imagine if they had met . . . .

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  15. hotballa

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    I thought Joffrey was much more enjoyable to hate than Ramsay. Like I hated Joffrey because of his actions, and just hated Ramsay because he is a waste. It's like hating the Emperor vs hating Jar Jar Binks.
     
  16. LosPollosHermanos

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    Yea, I guess. It also helps that he's torturing a little **** like Theon who killed and tarred 2 innocent boys. Its been a while since I've read the books but I do remember that one of the scenes was Theon helping the fake "Arya" escape and gets caught by Stannis in his redemption.
     
  17. LosPollosHermanos

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    Also, use this thread to talk about the obnoxious non book readers that will throw a fit for saying stuff like "John Snow is a b*stard," if you've even mentioned that you've read the books.

    The butthurt in that other thread has become strong over stuff they only perceive as spoilers.
     
  18. LosPollosHermanos

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    Ramsey is a b*stard, he would have to pretend to obey him. While he is twisted and cruel, he hasn't been spoiled by the world telling him his **** smells like roses so I would give him the edge in King's Landing.

    Joffrey was just a stupid monster who would have met his end sooner or later just like the mad king.
     
  19. Rocket River

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    *chuckle*

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  20. vinsensual

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    Tyrion hasn't found out about her and Tywin yet. Tyrion's anger about Tysha, finding out about his father's hypocrisy towards whores and picking the one w**** that mattered was what caused Tyrion to snap. To me at least.

    She's been overfeatured for 4 seasons, and according to most of the book reading watchers, has been a badly portrayed or badly adapted character.
     

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