For the mask thing, as has been said already, his mask was on fire or damaged (one of those) and he ripped it off to be able to see. He later realized, after awaking from unconsciousness to a train full of strangers, that he wasn't wearing his mask. This is when they started reassuring him that they wouldn't tell anybody. For Doc Ock, while there may not have been a practical reason for him to die, there was a moral reason. I'm not sure if you heard this, but I felt it was one of the more dramatic lines in the movie. Doc Ock looks up at the burning fireball and the wreckage and says to himself, "I will NOT die a monster!". In the movie, Doc Ock was a good guy. Period. After his accident, the artificial intelligence in his tentacles took control of him. That scene where he lays on the ground and wills his tentacles to obey him is his return to a clear head. He realizes the bad things that he's done, and sacrifices himself as atonement. For Harry's descent into madness, I'm not sure about this, and a comic buff might want to check it for us, but does this happen in the comics? I know for a fact that Harry stumbles on his father's old equipment in the comics and decides to take up the mantle, but I didn't know if insanity comes with the territory or not. For Aunt May, I didn't like her being in the action scene either. I felt it would have been much better if Peter was willing to mix it up with Doc Ock and fight all out for someone who wasn't related to him. It didn't make or break the movie for me, though, so I tried to overlook it.
What was the point the of the Landlord's daughter? I didn't get the whole cake eating scene. Was it just to show she had a crush on him?
i think it was a "slice" of ordinary life. sitting down, relaxing and just having a piece of cake with someone.
I didn't read the comics, but I did watch the cartoons that they showed of Spiderman on Fox several years ago. (those were the days) I'm pretty sure he was crazy, though IIRC, it was mostly the green goblin talking to him. I kind of wanted to see a talking mask in the movie. That, and maybe a crazy, wicked laugh. I really liked the movie. Again, I only watched the cartoon, but from what I saw on the cartoon, the movie perfectly showed how Peter was conflicted with his feelings, IMO. Really looking forward to the third, though like others, I would have prefered a Venom villian or something like that, though if they go the Green Goblin route, that would make sense.
She becomes a villain in the 3rd Spider-man after a horrible cooking accident. Cakelady and her gang the Baker's Dozen will be the high point of the series.
Wasn't sure myself about the girl, but I'm hedging, given that Spiderman royally screws over people, you've got yourself a potential villian. The guy left standing at wedding is not doubt gonna be pissed as well. You've got another villian right there. And I apparently missed some guy getting his arm cut off. So you've got another villian right there as well. Seems like the trend is pretty steady. The girl is gonna see him with the red head and get all upset. So I'd hedge that she's gonna be a villain of some kind or give spiderman fits.
Ok. There you go. AGBee clears it up for us. I was post too late. But good to know my spidey sense was all over that one. What happens to the guy at the wedding?
The mask caught fire. And at that moment (on top of an out of control, speeding train) I don't think finding a replacement was intended to be very important. Inhibitor chip was fried, leading to the AI of the tentacles overriding Ock's mind. Add in the grief and shock...they went out of their way to show that he was actually a good, if misguided, guy from the beginning of the film.
Damn it, been offline for a week and there are too many replies to read. I'll give my thoughts before going back and letting anyone else's opinions contaminate my own. ***SPOILERS*** In a word, AWESOME. This is the greatest comic book film of all time. Fantastic fight scenes. Great character interaction and once again Raimi has done his homework and made a movie for the fans. I really can't say enough good about this movie. My favorite part is at the end, when Peter and Mary Jane are finally together, they realize that duty calls. MJ lets him go and we're treated to that shot of her in the window watching him leave to go put his life on the line for what could be, for all she knows, the last time, that we've seen in the comics so many times. Great stuff. Jameson was a riot again, especially at the wedding. Really, too much gold here for me to organize right now. Just go out and see it. Nit-picky fanboy complaints: While they did an excellent job illustrating the dual relationships everyone haves with Peter/Spidey, (Aunt May loves Peter, distrusts Spidey. Jameson employs Parker, destroys Spidey. Harry is Peter's best friend, yet sworn enemy of Spider-Man, etc.) I would have liked to have seen the other side of the coin, where Flash Thompson torments Peter Parker yet is the freaking president of the Spider-Man fan club. It doesn't hurt the film not being there, but it would have been a nice little touch. Under-utilization of Joe Robertson. He's supposed to be the "good cop" counterpart to Jameson and arguably the glue that holds the Bugle together, yet somehow Betty Brant gets a bigger part in this installment (speaking of which, I loved the little tease of a relationship between her and Peter towards the beginning as she was Parker's first girlfriend in the comics). The powers/webbing switching on and off. It just happens and they don't explain it. Kudos for giving the "running out of webbing" scenario a spin (thought they wouldn't since they ditched the mechanical web-shooters), but at least explain WHY it's happening and HOW he was able to start spinning his webs again minutes later. AGAIN, where are Spidey's jokes?!?! The biggest problem with the first one carries over here. Sure, Peter Parker is a really introspective guy, but once that mask comes on he's a different guy. *** END SPOILERS *** Go see this movie. Again.
They could certainly work something out with that angle...astronaut goes to space, comes back a changed man who wants revenge on PP. However, I don't think the underwear model is a compelling enough character to bring back for the sequel as a major baddie.
Eddie Brock is Venom. He becomes Venom because of the symbiote suit that Peter brings back with him (and ultimately rejects) from a battle on another planet with the Beyonder. The suit finds Eddie Brock. The hatred that Eddie Brock feels for Peter Parker is mixed with the hatred that the symbiote feels at being rejected. Thanks to the symbiote, Brock learns that Parker and Spider-man are the same person, and they go after him. I really wish they would have gone with Venom as the villain for the third movie, instead of the Green Goblin angle they seem to be taking.
I think it would just be hard to do Venom in a movie. I mean, I know they are comic book movies, but they are trying to keep them somewhat grounded in reality. If we get to Venom, who I'd love to see on film, we have to bring in an alien creature. Maybe they could find a whole other angle for the suit, like in these Ultimate Marvel Comics, where instead the suit is actually a project of Peter's father that was supposed to cure cancer. Another complication I see is the developement of Venom in just one movie. We haven't seen Eddie Brock yet and there's no hint or clue that he has anything against Spiderman for the time being. I think what they need to do is have the Lizard and Green Goblin II for the third film, bring in the Venom suit, however they choose to bring it into existence, and have Spidey use it to fight off GG II and Lizard since it will be hard for him to fight off 2 villians at once, needing the boost the Venom suit gives him. Then end it with him being overcome by it and having to reject it. This requires them having to pick an actor for Brock ahead of time and building him up for the 4th. I've heard Raimi wasn't sure if he'd do a 4th, Kirsten isn't interested, and I think Tobey might not be either. So, the solution could be a single shoot of the 3rd and 4th film so that they can happen back to back.
Apparently, Brock actually WAS in Spider-man, or at least the first one...sort of. Looks like he was played by Richard C. Everbeck. Although according to those in the message boards on that site, he was probably just mentioned and not in it, and if he was, the scene was either deleted or it was hard to notice him. It would be pretty hard to have Venom in the next movie, especially with Harry as the GG seemingly being a huge part of it. I would think that Venom would need to have a lot of time to develop, like you mentioned. (seems kind of like a great idea actually, IMO) Seems like they could make 10 Spider-Man movies and still have plenty of stories to tell, as long as they didn't butcher anything. I kind of was wondering why they even bothered bring in the astronaut in for MJ to marry. I thought that Harry was supposed to marry her, and I think that could still have been done in the movie seeing as how it could fuel the anger and insanity that Harry would have for Spidey once MJ decided not to marry Harry. Makes me wonder if the astronaut has a bigger purpose than just almost marrying MJ. Then again, I just read that the 90's cartoon was wrong with how Venom got started, and seeing as how that is the only source I have for Spidey info, maybe I shouldn't put too much thought in it.
