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Spider-Man 2

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by AstroRocket, Jun 28, 2004.

  1. Drexlerfan22

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    Eh, fair enough, it's not like I feel that strongly about it. I went with 3 other people, and two of them said pretty much exactly what I just said here before I even brought it up, so I know I'm not alone.
     
  2. MadMax

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    this comment hypes me up BIG TIME!!! can't freaking wait!!! the story is why i care. i leave the riddick and ahnold movies to everyone else...i appreciate a hero with a story behind him.
     
  3. Oski2005

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    I can gurandamntee you are gonna love this movie Max, and I'm so glad that there are dads like you out there, bringing kids up on the same heroes we had instead of letting them watch those crazy anime shows that seem to clutter up Saturday mornings. Actually, I don't know anything about your son, but I hope he doesn't watch those shows.
     
  4. MadMax

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    he doesn't. ABCFamily has been running the old SpiderMan cartoons with Iceman and Firegirl (or whatever her name is). He has me check each morning before I leave to set the TV to it so he can watch that while he plays with his Spiderman figures. :) good stuff.

    and you'll all be pleased to know, he prefers the original star wars movies to the new series. :)
     
  5. francis 4 prez

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    it's not so much that i dislike having a story (but make no mistake, blow a lot of **** up and i'll probably like it), but i felt like this was a five minute story stretched out for 90 minutes and then there was some action to try an appease me. i felt like i was getting hit over the head with it.

    but of course to each his own.
     
  6. Oski2005

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    Sniffle*, the future is in good hands.
     
  7. MadMax

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    :D

    yeah...and i have another son on the way. it's gonna be a freaking spider-man watching, smarty jones loving, houston sports adoring freak show at my house. man, i feel sorry for my wife, already.
     
  8. Coach AI

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    Agreed. This is one of the best jobs of translating the comic medium to the film medium that has ever been.

    Great movie. The first one was just a fun movie to watch, this one moreso. Very deserving of the money its pulling in.

    And the fight scenes with Doc....:eek: They've made some serious strides with the CGI.
     
  9. fba34

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    put me down as one of those who didnt like it.
    too much talking, and please dont take this as a mean of asking for more 'action' or 'fighting'.
    they just went back and forth with each other talking too much. probably could just convey the same message in one or 2 sentences but instead went back and forth too many times.
     
  10. mrpaige

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    People prefer stories over action, too. It ain't just critics. These nothing-but-action extravaganzas tend to fizzle very quickly and are hardly ever remembered a few years (or even months) down the line.

    If you don't want a story, just stay home and play video games.
     
  11. m_cable

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    I really enjoyed the movie. It was chugging along just okay until the train scene. Up until then I felt it was fine, but no particular scene stood out. I felt the scene where Peter's aunt forgave peter could have been handled better, and other little annoyances. But that train sequence was something. Yes carrying Spidey on the train was a bit too "Jesus" for my liking, but the stopping of the train was a fantastic sequence. And that one bit where the people are looking down at Peter's exposed face was very poignant. The "he's just a kid" line was just perfect.

    It was just a tremendous scene, and really made the movie for me. Bonus points for the "if you want him you have to go through me" part. I got a big laugh out of Doc Ock just pushing everyone out of the way. Nice way to spin a movie cliche.
     
  12. bobmarley

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    I think Rogert Ebert should marry Spiderman 2.....

    :rolleyes:
     
  13. MadMax

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    This is why I love this character. Because he's as normal as he can possibly be, while still having these fantasy-level superpowers. It's all about heart. I'm a sucker for that...just like I was with the Rockets of the mid-90's. Give me a flawed hero...a John McClane/Die Hard type character. A guy who is reluctant. A guy who says, "man, i'd rather not get involved." But does so anyway, even though he's scared out of his mind. I love that crap.

    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/editorial/outlook/2658441

    The superhero's shoes we'd gladly climb walls in
    By DANNY FINGEROTH

    There are other superheroes, to be sure, and they all have their appeal. Everyone knows Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman. Even people who have never read a comic know Superman's "Up, up and away" and the catchphrases of the other heroes. But no superhero has ever captured our hearts like Spider-Man.


    What magic did Stan Lee and Steve Ditko unearth when they created the web-spinner in 1962, and why does it still touch us so deeply today? Why, to put it another way, did the first Spider-Man movie make close to a billion dollars— and why is the next one, which opened Wednesday, poised to make
    even more?

    When I was editorial director of Marvel Comics' Spider-Man line, we used to refer to Spidey as "the regular guy" superhero. He really could be any one of us. To be Superman, you had to come from another planet. To be Wonder Woman you had to be born a mythological Amazon princess. But to be Spider-Man, you just had to be bitten by a radioactive spider. (Hey, it could happen.) You didn't have to be from a superhuman race. You just had to have it happen to you, and we all have things happen to us.

    And when the spider gave Peter Parker his superpowers, he did what any of us would have done. He didn't go out and fight crime right away. He set out to make some money to help his kindly aunt and uncle, and also to have a few bucks to enjoy life. He was just a teenager. But when his uncle was murdered, things suddenly got a lot more serious. Peter captured the killer and realized that "with great power there must also come great responsibility." End of fun, time to be serious forever, right?

    Wrong.

    Because no matter how bad things became for Peter/Spidey, he always approached his responsibilities the way we all do — ambivalent and complaining all the way. Sure, he felt a responsibility to use his powers for good. He was brought up right. But he wanted to have fun — because, really, how could swinging through the canyons of New York not be fun? Sometimes he loved being Spider-Man, sometimes he hated it. Sometimes he turned his back on it for a while. But his sense of responsibility always brought him back. And that's what we'd all like to think we'd do in his place. To paraphrase Walt Kelly's Pogo: We have met the Spider-Man and he
    is us.

    Does Spider-Man operate out of a Fortress of Solitude or a Batcave? No. His "headquarters" was his room in his aunt's house. Later, he moved to an apartment that, to afford, he had to share with a roommate. Wonder Woman and Green Lantern never seemed to have to worry about where they'd clean their dirty costumes after a night of crime-fighting. Peter had to figure out how to make sure no one would take his spider suit out of the dryer at the laundromat when he wasn't looking.

    In the 40 years since his creation, Spider-Man changed the landscape of superheroes. They still had to be pure of heart, but they were allowed to slip from perfection. They could save the day but still feel unloved and unappreciated, even by themselves. The glib thing is to say that he opened the door for the neurotic superhero. I prefer to say that he showed us we could all be pure of heart if we just tried hard enough.

    If the Hulk represents rage, Superman optimism and Batman revenge, Spider-Man, more than any other superhero, represents heart. And that's the key, I think, to his ever-growing popularity. He's not embarrassed by it or ashamed of it, nor should we be of our own striving to be better than we are, to get up again and again no matter how many times we get knocked down. It's Spider-Man's greatest superpower. And ours.
     
  14. AstroRocket

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    Really cool article, MadMax. Thanx for posting it.
     
  15. RunninRaven

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    Freaking great movie. I was highly disappointed in the first one because I felt that with the extensive use of the CGI, they didn't really push the envelope of what a fight between Spiderman and anyone else could be like. CGI like that is inherently fake looking, so you have to really give the audience bang for its buck when utilizing it. Spidy 2 did that in spades. The train fight scene was so ****ing spectacular I almost crapped my pants.

    And the mix of comedy and romance was perfect. They had more time for character development in this one since they didn't have to introduce many characters. You really felt for Peter and MJ throughout it and their back and forth love tag. The first one was too hokey, with a poorly cast and poorly written villain. This one was not. I just hope, based on what happened towards the end of this movie, that the third one doesn't relapse into the ****ty villain territory.
     
  16. daNasty

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    LOL! Not going to watch the third one? I think you have a serious problem. Waiting for a rental? Why not just dont watch it at all and do us all a favour?
     
  17. daNasty

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    By the way, the movie was FANTASTIC!! A great emotional ride and great action! A movie with heart and brain. Those who doesn't like it are just bitter.
     
  18. DUDE

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    Man, you sure are a tough guy. Attacking a man because he doesn't like a stupid movie. Betcha feel tough, huh?
     
  19. Refman

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    Poor, poor girl. I will send her a condolence card. Of course I am ready to assist you in furthering your Houston sports addiction any time you want. We lawyers sure are two faced, eh?

    Back on topic...I cannot wait to see the movie. Haven't had a chance yet. A friend in LA who is a HUGE comic book "geek" is amazed with how true to the comics they made Spidey's character.
     
  20. nyquil82

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    probably a little late so say it, but i have some connections with marvel so I got to see SM2 a week before it came out. it was a lot lot better than one.

    anyway, the marvel CEO gave a speech and told us that SM3 is to come out in march 2007, Xmen 3 is 2006, and blade 3 is also coming next year. Fantastic Four is in the works, as is Iron Man, Sub Mariner and Ghost Rider. Just FYI for you Marvel fans, I own some stock in them, bought at 3 bucks a while ago and its paid back quite a bit. Quite proud in how far the company has gone out of comic books.
     

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