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spanoulis arrives in town today

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OmegaSupreme, Sep 12, 2006.

  1. DaDakota

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    Ugh......do you even comprehend what you are commenting on?

    Boki could shoot....check
    Boki came into the NBA and struggled .....Check
    Boki never developed his confidence at the NBA level....check
    Boki failed.....check

    Vspan will face the same questions coming into the league, it is all in his HEAD as to whether he can make it or not, he has the physical tools, does he have the mentality to do it.

    He needs the ...."I get knocked down, but I get up again, ain't never gonna keep me down" ....mentality.

    DD
     
  2. wnes

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    Remind me how successful Boki had been on Euro tours before he came to play in the NBA, and compare his achievements to those of V-Span?
     
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    Boki has still not had much of a chance to play in the nba. And,if i remember correctly, his stats were not that great in Europe, they looked at him as a project
     
  5. wnes

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    Thank you. That's the reason why using Boki as an example to predict V-Span's success in NBA is a poor exercise, if not totally pointless. You've got to have the two starting from somewhat equal footing when you make a comparison.
     
  6. nyquil82

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    Boki will always have one thing over VSpan, and that is showing up Karl Malone in the playoffs.



    ...that's probably it though.
     
  7. OddsOn

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    So did V-Span show up in town or not? :confused:
     
  8. Old Man Rock

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    Wow, 14 players have a better shot of winning mvp than Yao and Chris Paul is tied with Yao. Vspan schooled Paul in the WC's and someone actually thinks Paul is equal to Yao. I bet any GM would trade 13 of the players ahead of Yao (exception Lebron) straight up for Yao!
     
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    I would imagine that the odds talk into account TMac and Yao Ming playing together and thus cancelling each other out a little bit. If you look at the history of the award, it has been rare that one of two fairly equal players on a team wins MVP. Nash in '05 had Amare, but he was unique as a PG. Otherwise - Duncan, Garnett, Iverson, Shaq (before Kobe really exploded), Malone, Jordan, Robinson, Olajuwon. So since 1990 most of the time the winner has basically been THE force on the team.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    The point is that they are both Euro players coming over to play in the NBA, and whether or not they develop the CONFIDENCE to play in the NBA is tantamount to their success.

    No one is saying that Boki and V-span are the same, just using Boki as an example of someone with talent that lost their confidence and failed to make an impact.

    And that it COULD happen to V-span.......

    SHEESH !!!

    DD
     
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    either way 34 to 1 and 51 to 1 are still very favorable. the top 5 sound about right, however shaq at 21 to 1 is just stupid. he should be lower than yao.
     
  12. weslinder

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    Back on topic, did the Greek Comets player meet Spanoulis when he got to town. I thought it was pretty cool that she was going to help him get to know Houston.
     
  13. Laozi

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    I was hoping for more of a "Ain't nothing gonna break my stride, nobody's gonna slow me down. Oh no, I've got to keep on moving" .....mentality.
     
  14. Nice Rollin

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    i dont know....he was never considered one of the best at his postions. remember when ppl were saying lidge was the best closer in the league
     
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    How much talent did Boki have before he put on the Rockets uniform? Don't just superficially reply that he could shoot, dribble, dunk, etc., look a little deeper in the context of his achievements/performances with his national team, the Euroleague, and in WC/Olympic games. Did he have a lead role on various teams he played? How much did he contribute, stats-wise or intangibly? Was he ever a self-assured, aka CONFIDENT basketball player among his peers?

    Then you examine V-Span in like fashion, do you arrive at similar conclusion?

    The only link between these two in your argument is that they both played in Europe before coming to NBA. If that's your concern, why not also look at some other European players? Do the names of Tony Parker and Dirk Novitsky resonate with you? Hey forget about the Texas connection, Parker and Novitsky never played with Rockets. OK, so you are suggesting the Rockets are a Texas curse for Euros?

    Look, whether V-Span may or may not be a bust in NBA or with the Rockets, you don't have a sound argument here with the Boki reference.

    SHEESH ?!
     
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  17. DraftBoy10

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    I don't really care if he can shoot or not. Just if he plays confident and attacks the rim consistently it gives our team another edge.
     
  18. wnes

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    It depends. If he does that consistently and with reasonably high success rate, then it's all good. Otherwise, he could just be a bonehead. :p
     
  19. john_l

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    Karl Malone differs with you.
     
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    Agreed, at least for this season. But if V-Span is going to develop into an above average NBA player, he must be able to hit the outside shot. To be realistic, I doubt he's much of a scorer his first year here. But if he can get to the rim, feed Yao in the post and whip passes out to open players, he will help our team on offense.

    On defense, he's got to learn what he can and cannot get away with. NBA guards will do their best to abuse him early. It's on him to make adjustments.
     

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