Perhaps I am misreading you so I apologize in advance if I am, but this appears to say that if you vote for McCain, it is because Obama is black?
But I think that the stereotypical racist republican jargon is so easily accepted when as a % basis its probably much less than the extreme communist and enviro-terrorist groups of the democrats. These extreme leftist groups come out in force and protesting at WTO meetings and national conventions. There are no racist or kkk rallies or white supremacy rallies at the conventions of note. I just think its an easy stereotype that is wrong and I say that as someone thats far from white myself.
This popular line of thinking bugs me too. Tell me this: If Obama was white, do you think Republicans would vote for him? If yes, then how do you explain Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004? My theory is - and this is very complicated, so bare with me - that Republicans won't vote for Obama NOT because he's black, but because he's *gasp* a Democrat. You know, like every other election. Saying Republicans won't vote for Obama because of racism is like saying Texan fans want the Steelers to lose this weekend because they have a black coach, ignoring the small detail that......their favorite team is PLAYING the Steelers this weekend.
You are aware that Robert Byrd (D-Hell) was a former member of the Klan, correct? That invalidates your argument.
All are appointees. Obama won the nomination. And by the way, how many black delegates are there to the Repub Convention?
I meant the disparity between the polls and the actual numbers during election day. No, I am not saying everyone who is voting for McCain is thinking along that line. But I do think that the number of people who can be classified in that group is being underestimated and that the polls are covering it up. Personally, I am not going to be swayed by race one way or another. I will vote for an ugly ******* alien with horns and all from Mars, if it can show me that it can lead the country for next 4 years. Having someone with green skin color in White House is not going to bother me. Having someone in there as inept as Bush will though.
You're talking about 50 years ago in the context of this election??? Wow, Democrats should just give up all hope now. Hilarious.
Liberal email alert! I received one... thought I'd post it, considering the thread, and that I really never receive these: Subject: Interesting read Today is John McCain's 72nd birthday. If elected, he'd be the oldest president ever inaugurated. And after months of slamming Barack Obama for "inexperience," here's who John McCain has chosen to be one heartbeat away from the presidency: a right-wing religious conservative with no foreign policy experience, who until recently was mayor of a town of 9,000 people. Huh? Who is Sarah Palin? Here's some basic background: She was elected Alaska's governor a little over a year and a half ago. Her previous office was mayor of Wasilla, a small town outside Anchorage.1 Palin is strongly anti-choice, opposing abortion even in the case of rape or incest.2 She supported right-wing extremist Pat Buchanan for president in 2000. 3 Palin thinks creationism should be taught in public schools.4 She's doesn't think humans are the cause of climate change.5 She's solidly in line with John McCain's "Big Oil first" energy policy. She's pushed hard for more oil drilling and says renewables won't be ready for years. She also sued the Bush administration for listing polar bears as an endangered species because ”she was worried it would interfere with more oil drilling in Alaska.6 This is information the American people need to see. Please take a moment to forward this email to your friends and family. We also asked Alaska MoveOn members what the rest of us should know about their governor. The response was striking. Here's a sample: She is really just a mayor from a small town outside Anchorage who has been a governor for only 1.5 years, and has ZERO national and international experience. I shudder to think that she could be the person taking that 3AM call on the White House hotline, and the one who could potentially be charged with leading the US in the volatile international scene that exists today. —Rose M., Fairbanks, AK She is VERY, VERY conservative, and far from perfect. She's a hunter and fisherwoman, but votes against the environment again and again. She ran on ethics reform, but is currently under investigation for several charges involving hiring and firing of state officials. She has NO experience beyond Alaska.—Christine B., Denali Park, AK As an Alaskan and a feminist, I am beyond words at this announcement. Palin is not a feminist, and she is not the reformer she claims to be. —Karen L., Anchorage, AK Alaskans, collectively, are just as stunned as the rest of the nation. She is doing well running our State, but is totally inexperienced on the national level, and very much unequipped to run the nation, if it came to that. She is as far right as one can get, which has already been communicated on the news. In our office of thirty employees (dems, republicans, and nonpartisans), not one person feels she is ready for the V.P. position.—Sherry C., Anchorage, AK She's vehemently anti-choice and doesn't care about protecting our natural resources, even though she has worked as a fisherman. McCain chose her to pick up the Hillary voters, but Palin is no Hillary. —Marina L., Juneau, AK I think she's far too inexperienced to be in this position. I'm all for a woman in the White House, but not one who hasn't done anything to deserve it. There are far many other women who have worked their way up and have much more experience that would have been better choices. This is a patronizing decision on John McCain's part- and insulting to females everywhere that he would assume he'll get our vote by putting "A Woman" in that position.—Jennifer M., Anchorage, AK So Governor Palin is a staunch anti-choice religious conservative. She's a global warming denier who shares John McCain's commitment to Big Oil. And she's dramatically inexperienced. In picking Sarah Palin, John McCain has made the religious right very happy. And he's made a very dangerous decision for our country. In the next few days, many Americans will be wondering what McCain's vice-presidential choice means. Please pass this information along to your friends and family. Thanks for all you do. –Ilyse, Noah, Justin, Karin and the rest of the team Sources: 1. "Sarah Palin," Wikipedia, Accessed August 29, 2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin 2. "McCain Selects Anti-Choice Sarah Palin as Running Mate," NARAL Pro-Choice America, August 29, 2008 http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17515&id=13648-9378467-fArBhax&t=1 3. "Sarah Palin, Buchananite," The Nation, August 29, 2008 http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17736&id=13648-9378467-fArBhax&t=2 4. "'Creation science' enters the race," Anchorage Daily News, October 27, 2006 http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17737&id=13648-9378467-fArBhax&t=3 5. "Palin buys climate denial PR spin—ignores science," Huffington Post, August 29, 2008 http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17517&id=13648-9378467-fArBhax&t=4 6. "McCain VP Pick Completes Shift to Bush Energy Policy," Sierra Club, August 29, 2008 http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17518&id=13648-9378467-fArBhax&t=5 "Choice of Palin Promises Failed Energy Policies of the Past," League of Conservation Voters, August 29, 2008 http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17519&id=13648-9378467-fArBhax&t=6 "Protecting polar bears gets in way of drilling for oil, says governor," The Times of London, May 23, 2008 http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17520&id=13648-9378467-fArBhax&t=7
Thats a silly argument as they hold some of the highest, most powerful positions in this country and you want to take away from their accomplishments because they were appointed. If anything the 'racist' backlash should've forced Bush out of office then because of all his african american apointees. And this is probably a very controversial comment, but Condi, Colin Powell (maybe) and Clarence Thomas are all 100% african american and were raised by african-americans. Barack on the other hand is half african-american and was raised by white anglo (mother and grandparents). Its a silly argument, but as is this entire thread. Now I don't give a damn about race, gender, color etc, but if were talking about who has done more for the advancement of african-americans into the highest positions in this country its been the republican party.
I was going to respond to FD's post, but I remembered the wise words of Admiral Ackbar, a squid we could all agree would make a great president.
I've always lauded his accomplishments. I think its a wonderful thing to see an african american/mixed american work his way up through education to be in a position to lead the greatest country in the history of the world. I think he's a very intelligent and accomplished fellow and am proud to call him an example of the American dream. He seems like a personable fellow and I would be happy to call him President if he shared my fiscal views, which are VERY different. I'm proud of him as a person and as an American, I think he is an example to the testament of education and a role model for youth. I would however also like you to acknowledge the significant advancements of african americans in executive government to the highest roles ever by the last two Republican administrations?? Can you do that??
I don't allow political talk at church. When people try and bring it up in Bible study, I squash them. My wife has said I'm a little harsh. I've told people that unless they have researched it themselves, I won't allow it to be discussed, and even still the person in question is not here to defend themselves... and that is gossip. I also tell them that if they think that Christians are going to somehow slow the inevitable from taking place in the world's global politics then they haven't read their Bibles. However, I do teach that each believer should pray, obtain peace on their decision, and vote their conscience... just keep your political discussions out of the church building. It is also made clear that if they don't vote they have no rights to complain. I also delete all of the crap in my inbox from the church members that feel I just "must read this about Obama" or anything similar. I don't need the emails to be educated enough about who I'll vote for. I've told people that press the point to try and harp on individual candidates, "please read the information on ALL of the candidates own websites before you make your decisions. It's best to hear their views directly from them, in their own words." I'm sure some people have left our church because I push fairness too much for their tastes. But I'm not in it for popularity anyway.
