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South Carolina cop charged with murder in black man's death

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by TheRealist137, Apr 7, 2015.

  1. DonnyMost

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    I fail to see how this applies to my point at all.

    Toll booth operators don't have the power to take you to jail.
     
  2. bigtexxx

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    actually you should take that advice.
     
  3. RV6

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    So still nothing on the black officer that was on the scene?
     
  4. mr. 13 in 33

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Police release dash cam video showing Michael Slager approaching Walter Scott's car. <a href="http://t.co/q7qIHVlA3y">http://t.co/q7qIHVlA3y</a></p>&mdash; CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) <a href="https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/586282356610355201">April 9, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     
  5. rocketsjudoka

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    If follow the principle of statistical sampling 4 or 5 cases a month where there is good documentation would indicate that there is a strong likelihood that there are many other incidences that have likely occurred also. While I will agree with you that the majority of encounters with LE are fine and as I stated that bad cops are a small minority of all LEO given the amount of power that LE wield this should be very concerning.

    Your attitude in almost all these cases seems to be primarily blaming the victim. I will agree in many cases victim behavior could've changed things but the problem with that is that it largely ignores the enormous responsibility that comes with being an officer of the law.

    Your's and some other view amounts to that any non-compliance = getting killed. I can tell you from helping to train and working with LEO that isn't actually what they are taught. There is a reason why LE are given things like tasers, pepper spray and taught, or at least should be taught, restraint techniques that minimize danger to both the LEO and the suspect. What you seem to miss is that LEO actually have a responsibility for even the safety of the suspect.

    As far as a race issue. I've tried to avoid that because while many of these cases have happened to black suspects this isn't just a problem for black suspects. Just in the past year alone there have been documented cases of other races this happening too. As cited earlier a black LEO shot a white suspect under suspicious conditions. A couple of months ago a video of a young white officer manhandling an elderly hispanic man came out. A few weeks ago there was a video of police beating an elderly Indian man.

    While you might dismiss these that just in a very short period of time several well documented incidents of LE abusing people who in most cases were offering minimal and certainly not life threatening resistence shows that there is wider problem out there than just a few aberrant cases.

    Another issue to consider is that your argument that it is primarily the fault of the people who end up getting injured or killed by LE is that rather than helping LE it actually makes it difficult for them to do their job. One strategies of LE is to develop trust between them and the communities they protect. This is the heart of the idea of community policing and a central principal of the UK police. If though the is attitude is that LE is to be feared and that any encounter with LE could potentially end up in your death or injury completely erodes trust between community and LE. That is literally the attitude that people have in a police state.
     
  6. NBAandNFLFan

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    and notice what race the cop defenders were... police are not going after caucasians like they are with blacks and some hispanics, so of course they dont think anything is wrong with police
     
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    Watching that dash cam footage does make me believe Slager shot Scott due to frustration. Slager was performing a routine traffic stop, he was professional and calm and not hassling Scott. He followed protocol by chasing Scott on foot, tried to use a Taser to incapacitate Scott. Everything up until he shot Scott seemed like by-the-book protocol.

    Slager definitely deserves jail time for murder. He's unfit to be a cop and unfit to be in society if he thinks the most convenient thing is to murder a non-threatening suspect.

    Unfortunately for Scott, he paid the ultimate price for his actions. If he kept up with his child support payments, he'd have a clean conscience during his interactions with law enforcement. Even if not, he should have stayed in the car. All he would've gotten were some fines and possible jail time. It's too bad for him and those he leaves behind that he made a poor decision to run from an idiot with a gun.
     
  8. NBAandNFLFan

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    that video is sickening... when did that happen, the cop could have killed him and by the looks of the video could have easily said the guy was trying to reach in his car for a weapon. the cop sounded shocked he was still alive, almost like," damn im in trouble now"

    Did that cop get arrested
     
  9. NBAandNFLFan

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    almost like they had done it before
     
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    What's the importance of the skin color distinction? This looks like a cold blooded murder.
     
  12. dandorotik

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    Incidents like this shooting and the reaction of N. Charleston residents remind us that we still have a way to go. And yes, it is a racial thing.

    Some of us are old enough to remember stuff like this (hotel owner pouring acid in a pool because the "coloreds" got in):

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  13. Kyakko

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    Yea.. that's the f'd up thing about cops these days. You know they're here to do a necessary job, but anyone that has to engage a cop is nervous they might say something wrong or do something that is perceived in a wrong way. Perhaps, it's the media that's effected both the cops and/or the public. It didn't use to be this way, I assure you, very few young people think of cops as heroes anymore, except for the cops themselves... and I know 3 cops personally.
     
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    It is when you have a whole race of people who live their lives based on being that race of people......
     
  15. mick fry

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    I guess the white guy getting attacked in the pool isn't worth mentioning. :rolleyes:
     
  16. bigtexxx

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    yeah because 50 year old photos are relevant here.
     
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    Perhaps his pH was slightly off. Am I supposed to believe a gallon of HCl did anything to a swimmer?

    Are you older than Deckard?
     
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    So black people live their lives based on being black? As opposed to other races who just live human being lives not thinking about what race they are? :confused:
     
  20. DCkid

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    There's not much to get from the dash cam video except that the cop sounds completely professional and calm during the traffic stop, then 30 seconds later after the guy starts to run he's the polar opposite.
     

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