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Sources: Utah offering more money to Dmo

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cyberx, Dec 6, 2016.

  1. Os Trigonum

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    Sauces
     
  2. Louka

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    Ideally you wouldn't have created a username based on a current player in the first place. Instead, yes.... you should make a new profile lol
     
  3. BMoney

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    This is serious tampering and I hope the Jazz have to forfeit a draft pick.
     
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    Restricted free agency is a dirty business. Let the games continue. Rockets have a choice here. Waive the physical and DMo plays. Or let this thing drag out to March and then be forced to have to match and not be able to trade DMo for the life of the deal or let him walk.

    Rockets need to waive physical here and end this mess that neither DMo nor his agent started.
     
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  5. heypartner

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    This is tampering *if* the offer from Utah came *after* signing the contract/offer sheet.

    However, if Utah already gave the bigger offer, then I suppose we can say BJ is exercising his rights, and Utah isn't party to blame. So, BJ used Nets as a trial balloon knowing Morey would match????

    (I've already guessed that the contract seems nearly identical to what Morey would have written already.) So, BJ tweaked it a little and found a sucker (Nets to sign it). BJ and Utah now know more what Morey would match, and can write a contract just out of Morey's grasp...and maybe even sour him on DMo altogether.

    That said: that is a HUGE gamble banking on Morey matching something that is significantly below what someone else is offerirng.

    so:
    • I don't see how BJ risks a trial balloon that might NOT get matched, if Utah's offer was significantly better, legally made pre-offer sheet
    • Maybe the "offering more" just means 2nd yr FULLY guarantee and little else in changes
    • March 1st was the trial balloon
    • Or league can sabotage all of it and declare other teams can over more, but Morey only needs to match original.

    bottomline: I think the Nets offer was real with BJ, and Utah is jumping in attempting tampering. I don't buy the trial balloon where BJ banks on Morey matching.
     
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    So, you´re saying this is the issue?
     
  7. Os Trigonum

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    'holic alert
     
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  8. BMoney

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    He can be released. He won't be. DMo is going to keep taking the L and cash zero paychecks.
     
  9. cyberx

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    Everyone here cries about tampering and wants to start a fit and go crazy. This whole business is effed up. Tampering happens ALL THE TIME. Its part of the game. Rockets do it all the time, every team does. You really think everyone follows the rules? You remember when Dirk had that SMALL contract with the Mavs before this one? You really don't think Cuban took care of him? Seriously... You dont think he threw some money Dirks way?

    I am NOT saying it is right, but guys, this is the business. It happens all the time.

    Get over it.
     
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    Whaaa? Who are you faulting here?

    From what I can tell, there's only one party not living up to the collectively bargained agreement.
     
  11. Haymitch

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    holic was warning us all along! You fools! You damned fools!!!!
     
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    I get what you're saying.

    But, some under the table agreement between Cuban and Nowitzki isn't nearly as overt as Utah's play here. They have plausible deniability.

    Utah is unabashedly tampering in the open.
     
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    Great. And when you get caught, you don't get away with it.

    Rockets are not going to "get over it" without looking after their own interests.
     
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    BJ Armstrong is the worst NBA agent ever.
     
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    Just when you thought the drama was over, another 100-page thread just came out of the blue. :mad:
     
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    All that may be true, but IF the Rockets can get something out of this tampering, then they should try to.
     
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    We really don't know that yet. You're assuming a particular scenario.
     
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    Why should the Rockets waive the physical other than to fine him?

    What's stopping DMo from taking the physical other than if he is damaged goods?

    If he is indeed damaged goods the Rockets have every right to confirm it with the physical before voiding his contract, as he will never play in the NBA again.
     
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    Too much at issue to list. Fake failed physical (buyers remorse) started this whole devaluation of DMo. It's a major component that limited his market, left him with just a few suitors, including us, and then shrunk him.

    Players hate RFA. They hate it because they know the teams collude to bring down their market. The collusion is this case is over the top starting with the alleged failed physical, continuing through the summer with "we want you" thrown around among with big contract numbers, until the money was dried up substantially and the offers fell. There'll be a lot more that eventually comes out here. Where it ends at this point I don't know. But I do know up until this point DMo hasn't lost a nickel by not accepting the QO nor the one year $7 million guarantee. And he's not losing anything by insisting on no physical, which is just another opportunity to devalue him.
     

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