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Sources: Rockets pushing for a RYNO trade before the deadline

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cyberx, Jan 25, 2018.

  1. JayZ750

    JayZ750 Contributing Member

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    This is only true in the sense that he's been god awful horrible for December and January. His gamescores are ridiculous

    He's shooting 31% the last 27 games. He's 2-8 (25%) his last two games. He's 30% his last 6 games. Random game counts aside, he's 31% over the last 27 games.

    I'm still waiting to see any confirmed analysis that Ryan's "stretch 4" ness is a trigger to this offense in a way an otherwise semi-competent offensive PF isn't.

    Even more damning, how about other players getting paid $20 million?? Ryan is the 42nd highest paid player in the NBA...

    But again, ignoring the salary, his best game of late to me was against GSW... and he wasn't great offensively then, the Rockets still scored enough points, etc. I liked Ryan because of his energy, hustle, activity and rebounds.

    No

    No. He has virtually no other way of scoring. He only takes just over 2 non 3 point attempts a game. He gets 1.6 offensive rebounds per game, and doesn't score off most of those.

    Virtually all of his scoring is assisted.

    But to your credit... his assists are slightly up over the last couple months and his shot attempts are definitely down.

    Not this year. And for the most part, the are basically near the same % career wise.
    But as noted, EG does so much more for the team offensively overall.
     
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    In theory sure. In reality, no.
     
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  3. valorita

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    Cp3 was right.
    Clips are Lou's team
     
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  4. don grahamleone

    don grahamleone Contributing Member

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    I wanna say it's February 7th.

    Edit: It's February 8th at 2pm cst.

    (according to http://www.nba.com/key-dates#/)
     
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  5. Mastro

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    Is it lining up for us to trade Ryno for Jordan?
     
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    ryan is shooting 36% on 3s in the last 8 games
    36% on the season
    36 % on career

    does this tell you something? ;)
     
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    One can only dream...
     
  8. vlaurelio

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    60 other players can shoot better than 36% from the three now. and they bring alot more not only on offense but defense as well. so we're basically paying 20M and starting a player who has only 1 job and he's mediocre at it.

    1/5th of the cap, 3rd highest player for the past 13 losses has been -135 BPM. an average of -10 BPM per game. pj tucker a 2nd worst ny far -86 BPM.

    https://www.basketball-reference.co...=0&age_max=99&game_result=L&order_by=diff_pts

    so I would say he giving up more points to the opponent than contributing to the team has caused majority of our losses this season

    and for the past 25, he's a team worst -59 BPM. Even tariq black is only -18 BPM. so that means everyone from harden, cp3, ariza, capela, ego, lmm, tucker, nene has to play alot harder offensively and defensively to make up for the points given up when rynos in the game.

    https://www.basketball-reference.co...id=HOU&age_min=0&age_max=99&order_by=diff_pts

    and if you only count the losses in that 25 game stretch, he's a whopping -104 BMP. -13 BPM per game. no wonder morey wants to get rid of him as fast as possible.

    https://www.basketball-reference.co...=0&age_max=99&game_result=L&order_by=diff_pts
     
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    1 how many of them have better range than ryan ?

    2 how many of them are career 38% 3pt shooters?

    3 how many of them are career VOLUME 3pt shooters?

    4 how many of them can play 4 and 5 ?

    5 how many of them were the part of the best offense in the history already?

    6 how many of them are shooting 39% on last 2 years

    7 how many of them were the key for their team to win season series vs gsw ?


    Besides ryan can also shoot better than 36%

    its just that this is his current average for the season
     
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  10. Naismith

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    If this is a dump trade with no equal value

    MISTAKE A BAD BAD MOVE
     
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    it tells me ryno is an underrated dunk superstar
     
  12. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    To be fair here, we don't run any plays for Ryno when we should. I would love to see some midrange pick and pop to setup easy jump shots for him from the elbow or post him up at the elbow for this Dirk impersonation. Both of those shots are money for him and I wish we would do it a lot more.
     
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    Floor Space vs Cap Space

    Only Ryan Anderson has ever confused thy Morey. Dilly Dilly to Silly Silly
     
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  14. Nivos

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    Welp, that Griffin trade pretty much killed our chance to send Ryan to Detroit.
    By that point I'd say we better get used to him, he aint going nowhere.
     
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  15. TheRealist137

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    Jerry West isn't dumb. Why would he want to trade an expiring contract for a Ryan Anderson?
     
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  16. Rockets FTW

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    Are U doubting Murray?!
     
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  17. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    With Cousins hurt, we could try to trade Ryno back to the Pelicans.
     
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    why so obsessed with the trade when we just almost swept season series vs warriors and he played significant part in victories... why mess with what works...
     
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  19. Dankstronaut

    Dankstronaut Way, way out here.
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    I don’t think 18 points a game puts anyone IN that conversation...but it’s clear you’ve missed my point as bad as Ryan Anderson misses a wide open 3 pointer at Toyota center.

    He COULD do it.
    He COULD do half that and it would still be excellent.
    But if he misses the first shot, he seems to dwell on it. If he had a better mindset, 3/8 nights would happen more often with an occasional 6/8 night because he has the confidence in his ability.
    He doesn’t lack talent. He lacks confidence.

    He is the only starter who hasn’t been hurt this year though...
     
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  20. vlaurelio

    vlaurelio Contributing Member

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    a 3 is a 3 unless you can prove that ryan's off rating is off the charts.

    is ryan in an up year or a down year?

    <2 3pts made is volume shooting?

    at least half of them

    we have the best offens in history because of harden & cp3, despite RA

    not sure what that even means he's in a downward spiral 40% to 36%

    Morey any GM would rather have a guy who improved from 35% tp 40%

    LOL he was nowhere near key to those wins

    harden & cp3 are key to beating GSW not Ryno

    https://www.basketball-reference.co...s_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&order_by=pts

    Morey wants him gone and no GM wants him
     
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