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Sources: Rockets exploring a Yao Ming trade

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets25, Dec 27, 2010.

  1. saleem

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    He hasn't improved much since he came into the league. Fool's gold.
     
  2. pbthunder

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    There really are very few very good centers. We should be happy to get a decent defensive center. I'd like another Mark Eaton.
     
  3. leebigez

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    In his 23 mins, 7ppg 5.5 rebs and 1.1 blks. I think if he played 35 mins, he would get 11ppts 8 rebs and 1.5 blks. For mle money on this team would be very,very good. The rockets wouldnt have to use Yao contract. They could use the tpe from trevor,but i doubt it.
     
  4. coachbadlee

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    If he is being traded with Nash, i wouldn't care.
     
  5. jopatmc

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    Viable options indeed. I still think the most logical thing to do would be to move Yao to Sacramento along with $3 million for basically nothing. That gets us under the lux tax and gives a $17 million TPE. And Sacramento makes $3 million because Yao only is only owed for half a season which is offset with his insurance money. We could still swing Kaman for Jared and Hill, which would make a lot of sense for us. We get a legit 5. He's expiring next season and we got a $17 million TPE to boot.
     
  6. HillBoy

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    I honestly don't believe Yao will be traded as he represents too much money for Les and the organization. He'll probably be resigned at a lesser salary in order to keep the access to the Chinese market.
     
  7. BimaThug

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    I had actually considered this option as well. Its a very interesting thought. Actually, since the Kings are only $14.2M under the cap, the Rockets would need to take back some salary (perhaps via some of their own TPEs) in a separate trade in order to maximize the size of the Yao TPE.

    However, I'm inclined to agree with Hillboy that Les may not sign off on a Yao trade unless the Rockets are at least getting back a very good player. Even in his current state, they don't want to risk losing out on him in free agency (not having his Bird rights) unless its truly worth such risk.

    The salary cap nerd in me loves the idea of a huge TPE. But we'll see if that translates into a real life move.

    But for those of you who want cap room to sign-and-trade (or just trade) for a max player, THAT is how you get it while still being able to re-sign your own free agents, namely Brooks.
     
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    ... The salary cap nerd ... loves the idea of a huge TPE. But we'll see if that translates ... in the new CBA.
     
  9. coachbadlee

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    IMO, trading Yao for a TPE would be a waste. There needs to be significant talent coming back in the trade. Although, the Kings are an extension of the Rockets, i don't see this being done.
     
  10. BimaThug

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    Exactly. Hence, "the risk.".

    I'm guessing that the concept of TPEs carries over to the new CBA. At the very least, existing TPEs will still be honored, since they are there to complete a "non-simultaneous trade" under the current CBA. I'm sure Morey has at least considered this.
     
  11. jopatmc

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    I don't see the Rockets trading Yao unless one of two things happens:

    1. They determine his career is over and don't want him back

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    2. They have talked to him and his representation and they know he is re-signing with Houston, even if it is for the minimum, because he wants to finish his career here.
     
  12. BimaThug

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    Jopatmc, I was actually in the initial stages of doing a blog entry about the "Yao TPE" scenario when I saw your post above. I hope you don't mind me continuing on that path despite you beating me to the punch on the BBS. I'll make sure to give you some credit.
     
  13. jopatmc

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    Don't need no credit. I started a thread about it a week ago.
     
  14. BimaThug

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    Where is it? I can't find any thread started by you on the subject in the last month.

    I'd like to give you credit for anything you specifically talked about before me.

    That's how I roll. ;)
     
  15. DaDakota

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    He starteed the thread and the mods moved it to this one.

    DD
     
  16. BimaThug

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    Aaaahhhhhh, I see. I suppose that makes sense. Thanks, DD.

    Dammit! I guess I'll just have to scour for your posts on the subject, jopatmc. Seriously, I don't want to unintentionally plagiarize you without giving you credit.

    Perhaps I'll just make it easier on myself and put a general disclaimer crediting you with also coming up with this idea and first posting it in this thread.
     
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    I wouldn't go for anyone that expires past 2012.

    I'm all for the 2012 plan.

    I'd go for any trade Marion-O'Neal Miami styles.

    Yao for Antawn Jamison/Gibson and Miami's pick
     
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    why would any team want an injured yao. even if he actually plays again, he will be rusty... rehab is not basketball training. time for him to just retire and help his mom out at the restaurant
     
  19. Old Man Rock

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    It's not plagiarism if you didn't read his post. Perhaps it is the Hundredth Monkey Theory whereby after 100 monkeys where trained a certain behaviour that learned behavior spread instantaneously from one group of monkeys to all related monkeys around the world. So perhaps many of the clutchfans were having similar thoughts and thus it popped in your head as significant.

    Not calling you a monkey or anything like that but most certainly you are not a plagiarizer. Anyway good article. We certainly so alot of teams take advantage os salary this last year. A large TPE would certainly be a nice asset and if the cost is minimal like an expiring contract on another team with one of other exceptions so we walk a way with all of Yao's salary for our TPE that would have to be a great asset to play with. No long term deals for mediocre players though. I would like to keep our cap space this summer.
     
  20. BimaThug

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    You do realize that the Rockets can only have one or the other, right? Not both.

    But if you're referring to having cap room in the context of needing a "failsafe" in the (unlikely) event that TPEs are completely eliminated in the new CBA, I see you working there. But the Rockets will likely have to take back some salary in order to MAXIMIZE the size of the trade exception.
     

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