The Rockets are contending that Yao's ankle injury was suffered prior to November 30, which it was. Therefore, they ought to get the DPE. Again.
The Stein comment referred to Butler's injury, not Yao Ming's. But - is receiving it even necessary? 45 day window, already with the 6.3m TE and little reason, I'd think???, to use it. Why double the cost when this season, at best, will be a marginal play-off. At best. (There are several possibilities for 7th and 8th seeds, Rox are only a maybe anyway. What am I missing?
Yep, I knew it was about Butler. But the post implied that this somehow affected the Rockets' ability to get a DPE for Yao. Is it NECESSARY? No. But it's one more trade asset to add to the arsenal.
When I saw Denver turn down New Jersey and that great deal I was against even trying to talk with them. They can come to us as a 3rd party facilitator, but I wouldn't waste too much time with them. Having said that, I like the Phonix Nash and Gortat trades that were mentioned.
Do you expect a home run (or just home run swing) by the trade deadline (from DM the GM)? BTW - Dallas talks 'trade' after having Butler go down but where are their trade pieces? Hayward? C'mon, Cubes, get real. I just don't see what they could offer a team that would interest a team without breaking up the Mavs' team?
Expect??? Morey is hacking away as we speak. Unfortunately, we don't know if anyone's even pitching to him. Can't accuse him of not trying, at least. (And the Mavs basically have Roddy B, Butler's expiring contract and crappy late first rounders to offer. Not overwhelming.)
I think they will end up with nothing hardly and the Knicks will be the one evetually giving it to them. Carmelo and his agent are playing them badly. They are such suckers. Total and complete ineptness and unrealistic trade expectations here. especially with Carmelo limiting their options so much.
Denver is not gonna want a 7'6 washedup heap of rubble. They are going want a productive player. Thats not Yao.
You have to understand the negotiating side of the deal from Denver's perspective. Denver is stalling. That's why we keep hearing that they want more and more for Carmelo. Five 1st round picks? Nobody is paying that price and they know it. But what harm is it to float that out there? Here's what Denver leaking their ridiculous asking price does: 1) Gives teams (& their fan bases) a false sense of assurance that they got a good deal if they can "somehow talk Denver into only accepting 3 or 4 1st round picks." Denver knows it won't get (5) 1st round picks -- but by asking for five, it makes teams more willing to give up (3) or (4) 1st round picks. 2) By increasing their demands to these ridiculous levels, they're stalling negotiations; no team is going to give up five 1st round picks in this trade. But what stalling does accomplish is that the team acquiring Carmelo must now go longer without his services, thus making their W/L record worse and making their 1st round pick more valuable. For example, let's assume that Carmelo will be traded to New Jersey. If Denver does the deal today, NJ might win 10+ more games than they would have if Denver instead dealt him closer to the trade deadline. By stalling negotiations, Denver is also making sure that the 1st round pick they will be getting back will be more valuable (more losses for the team acquiring Melo).
It's his huge expiring contract of $17 million plus, and most of the remainder would be covered by insurance, that has value.
I see what your saying. It only sound smart in theory if it turns out that wat. If Carmelo blocks their last effort trade by not resigning with the team they want to trade him too? Then trade doesnt happen? Knicks get him in offseason and firing of Denver GM commences without any trickery or magic bean tricks to brag about. Just straight up firing for getting nothing in return and Knicks being the team who gets him after all for nothing.
In a way? Same trickery that didnt work for Amare Stoudemire in Phoenix, Boozer in Utah, and Bosh in Toronto. Exact same process and Carmelo and his agent are playing it? The exact same way.
What if Dallas was willing to do Chandler, Butler, Roddy, picks for Melo, Harrington, Birdman? I would think that would get Denver to listen. Just my opinion.
you are such a t-mac hater. man, what has tracy done to u or ur family to make u hate him so much? even on a thread totally unrelated to him u are trying to mock him.. geez...
Thats a pretty good idea bima, but i must ask the same question, what is a 28 yr old nene worth in rebuilding for houston? I like all the componets of the trade, but I just cant get the idea the rockets just need to start over and get into the top 10 of the draft. That team you listed is good enough for 5-9 with limited upside. That team still has their best option (martin) who is better suited as a 3rd type of player. I like Nene and what he brings and his price is decent, but where is that team? Other than that, it cool, but i just think the rockets need to think long and hard about how long they want to carry on this rebuild on the fly prospect.
Fair enough, but we all know that Les and Morey WILL NOT opt to lose more games and rebuild by trying to get their own pick to be a high lottery pick. I think Nene might be the best combination of (a) good player, (b) great fit, (c) fills a need, and (d) at least somewhat realistically attainable. I honestly think he's among the most underrated players in the league. He's the rare combination of size, speed and strength at the center position (second only to Dwight Howard in those three departments combined, IMO). If he can get on a team with fewer chuckers (Melo, JR Smith), perhaps he could blossom into a more productive scorer. After all, he leads the league in FG%! I also think this team--IF the right rotations can be set and the young players continue to develop into their respective roles--can be pretty darn good. I also think Kevin Martin can be a legit #2 scoring option on a championship team. I don't know ANY team whose third option is a legit 23+ ppg scorer if made the first option (except maybe Ray Allen in 2007-08 and maybe Bosh this year). If my hypothetical trade went down, the Rockets would STILL have plenty of assets to try to land ANOTHER very good player or even an All-Star: 5 top-35 picks in 2011 and 2012 Draft rights to Sergio Llull and Lior Eliyahu Ariza trade exception Yao Disabled Player Exception (?) Oh, yeah, and also a bunch of good young players on the active roster.
