Sources: Nuggets agree to trade Camby to Clippers for second-round pick

it's just so amazing that whatever is talked about, somehow people like you find a way to bring yao into the convo - and usually in a negative way.

 

the one i replied to is about backing up yao. that's how yao was brought into convo. and camby's strengths are exactly yao's weakness, rebounding and shot-blocking. camby is basically a younger but more expensive version of deke. having seen how deke backed up the last few years, camby would step right in. yeah he's expensive but we want to win now don't we.

 

A pricey steal for the Clippers considering Camby's contract, but it's also Christmas for the Nuggets FO.

 

We didn't have what L.A. could offer. Yes, he would be a great back up, but it's not realistic. The numbers have to add up guys.

 

But it's cheaper than signing away Emeka Okafor. And with his deal coming off the books in the summer of 2010, they *might* be able to chase one of the super-FAs then.

Extremely smart move by the Clips. Telling about how Denver's owner is operating. I can't believe Carmelo is going to take this well. Luxury Tax matters more than their only "true" center.

Evan

 

If Brandon Roy and Greg Oden stay healthy, the Blazers are a lock for the playoffs. They finished 41-41 last year, have added Oden, Fernandez & Bayless while Roy, Aldridge, Outlaw & Webster are all a year older. They should be the most improved team in the conference.

 

Funny thing about this is that even with Denver unloading Camby's contract for nothing - they are still over the Lux Tax.

 

How does any of this qualifiy as "something for nothing"? The Clipps had to lose Elton Brand to Free Agency to gain Camby. Unless you consider Brand "nothing", your comment is pointless.

Or maybe the comment is part of your wider (but delusional) focus that Morey will flip BJax for an All Star at the Trade Deadline.

 

You have a point.

 

Rockets need to make a push for Artest now.

 

No. K-Mart is still on the roster. K-Mart is a damn good defender. Carter's a pretty good defender. Bobby Jones is a damn good defender. Camby is a horrible team defender who gets blocked shots because he's a stat w****.

Both of you are dead on.

As for this move, I think it's only the first step. I have no proof, or "inside knowledge" on this, but I'm fairly confident we're going to see something done soon with that exemption. It wouldn't surprise me to see Kleiza + the exception going to a team for a "max salary" player. It wouldn't surprise me to see a big deal where AI & the exception for a combo of 2-3 players. Lord knows if we don't do something, we're in trouble up front.

The only thing I'm concerned about in this deal is what we got in return. We couldn't have gotten a future first for him? I mean, we got a future first from Charlotte for the 20th pick in this year's draft. As long as this is just the first step, I'm fine with the move.

BTW, I'm much more concerned about the loss of Najera than Camby. That should tell you how overrated Marcus was for us.

 

Can't combine trade exception with a player's salary in a trade to get a player of even greater salary.

 

This isn't a bad trade for either team. Camby and Kaman can play together, that's not a problem. The Clipps still have cap room to get a very good young player or even a max guy. The nuggetts must have reports that Nene is fully healthy. If that's the case, he plays center and is already paid to that's not a big deal. The nuggets had 3 max contracts plus a 2- 9 mill players. That's a lot of payroll.

 

That is quite a lot of salary to throw around. For reference, Iverson salary would match well with Vince Carter and Bobby Simmons while the trade exception could fit in Devin Harris. Not saying NJ would want this, but it is just to show how much salary that is.

 

I know how hard that is. I'm just pointing out that the team has options.

BTW, I know I've pimped this site before, but PickaxeAndRoll.com has a GREAT analysis on the trade.

http://www.pickaxeandroll.com/2008/7/16/572569/marcus-camby-traded-to-the

 

This is because the Nuggets didn't want any salary back (hense I think they will let the TE expire). How many teams were 10 mill under the cap AND wanted to spend 10 mil on a player like Camby? I'm afraid the answer to that question is 1. And when LA knew the answer and knew how bad the Nugs wanted to unload him, then the price became abnormally low and Denver had no choice but to take it or leave it. So they took it.

Could they have gotten a good or decent player in another trade with another team? I pretty sure think they could have, but that wasn't their goal - unloading salary was.

 

I didn't mean to be imply hard or impossible....just a wow.

That trade exception expires at almost exactly the right time to snag a good player from a team wanting to be under the cap in 2010. I would have agreed to the deal if I was Denver, but held off on the transaction at least a week to give them more time next offseason to make trades.

 

I guess Denver felt it had no chance to be a contender this year, so they're going to dump salary, and hope to make a splash in next summer's free agency.

 

While it is a salary dump currently, but I believe Denver now has the largest trade exception. It could be that Denver has decided to be a major player in the trade market this year. There will be a few teams that may want to make a deal at the deadline to get below the Luxury tax.

Denver has options now that I think are better than having Camby. Clippers...well, they need players and still have cap space.

 

Ha they didn't even give up a 2nd rounder what they did was swap 2nd round picks in 2010 haha. How the hell does this trade work? How do trades supposed to work because obviously you can get rid of players to another team and take nothing back. SOOOooo why not give some of our players away and a pick to free up space and get him?