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Sources: Many top NBA players hesitant to promote coronavirus vaccines

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by JumpMan, Feb 17, 2021.

  1. Scarface281

    Scarface281 Contributing Member

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    What is this supposed to mean? Notice how your article didn't give examples on how only 500 pages being released a month "was normal" even though they claim it. There are examples of FOIA's requiring the release of thousands of pages a month, so that little last line in your article is actually complete BS and yet another item in the long list of trying to give a pass to these vaccine experiments.

    So what does that make the moderna/pfizer vaccine? the patrick fertittas?
     
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    Why should it be normal? Is releasing 300,000 pages normal?
     
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    Yes releasing thousands of pages is normal. You'd think the data of a vaccine mass distributed would be one where theyd want the data released as soon as possible, not advocating for a lower monthly page release than reports in the past, on the basis that releasing 500 pages per month is normal even though no examples were cited. Considering these vaccines are under EUA it seems it would be a much higher priority to get all data released for full transparency. Of course they dont want full transparency.
     
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    Can you cite examples of FOI requests that entailed releasing thousands of pages a month over the span of many years, since that’s what would be required for a request of over 300,000 pages? It’s one thing to block off a few months to release thousands of pages. You’re asking that they block off years where they’d have to release thousands of pages a month. That requires a lot of resources. That impacts their ability to service other requests. And the FDA has said that 500 pages per month, per request, is standard. Do you have information indicating that’s not typical?

    And we know they don’t want full transparency because of the reasons cited in the article I linked to. They must review the documents line by line for exemptions to be redacted (including protected corporate secrets and patient personal information).

    And suppose they weren’t in a hurry to get all this information out to the public. One explanation for that could be that it would show major methodological flaws. Another reason is that bad actors with a political agenda and no relevant scientific credentials will exploit the highly technical and complex nature of the data to get people who are already inclined against vaccines to resist even further. That will almost certainly happen. Does this concern justify not fulfilling the FOI request? No, but I understand them dragging their feet on it to the extent allowable by law and precedent.
     
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    There was a reference in one of the links you had where 5,000 pages were released a month. Read your articles! Here's the link to the reference made: https://apnews.com/article/ad896c0397dd46658af87e55c9c4412e

    And Pfizer just released the data through Feb 28th thanks to multiple FOOA requests. Shouldnt have to be like that.
     
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    That article makes it clear that requests of this sort are not normal.

    Representatives of the State Department had argued that 5,000 pages per month was not practical because its 60 to 73 workers sifting through records can only process between 18,000 and 21,900 pages per month for all of its FOIA requests. They said Engelmayer’s requirement would substantially slow the processing of 98% of FOIA requests that are not in litigation, including over 170 expedited requests.
     
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    If a so called worldwide pandemic is not enough to put more staff on this then I don't know what is. Thankfully we have people who saw through the BS and put in FOIA requests. We'll see these documents sooner than later.
     
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    LeBish complaining about NBA protocols and taking a 1 hr flight by himself while so many people have lost loved ones, careers, businesses... SMDH. Tone deaf MF'er.
     
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