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Sources: Jvg not interested in Rockets because of relationship with owner

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cyberx, Apr 18, 2016.

  1. J.R.

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    Leslie is the 'cancer'.

    We need to cut him out.
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Honestly, I think he hinders what this team could be, I think he meddles and forces poor or temporary decisions on Morey - and tries like hell to not pay the tax.

    You can tell how egotistical he is by how much Morey praises him, clearly Les is so insecure he needs his underlings to praise him.

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  3. Rudyc281

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    Is les friends with any of the other owners?
     
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  5. houtown

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    I understand the probability of an all time great coach walking through the door is slim at this time. I just do not think the next great hire as coach is going to come from a big name either, who has coached a team before in the league.

    There are some unproven names out there who have potential to be great coaches, including Luke Walton, a possible Phil Jackson type of head coach.

    You always have to dig to find great head coaches, they usually come from places no one else is thinking of at the moment. Maybe interview a number coaches before some one just says hire Van Gundy as coach.

    If anything, Van Gundy should possibly be a last resort for the team. My memories of him as coach were not that of warriors or players with the killer instinct either when with the Rockets.
     
  6. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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  7. BackdoorHarden

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    Les just wants to be like Dolan. Both resides in New York.

    If only Les would hire Isiah...
     
  8. houtown

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    Lol, I do not think that was during the Jeff Van Gundy era, that was from the actual great coach that succeeded him, Rick Adelman.

    Jeff Van Gundy probably gets no credit for that, hence why I think he might be overrated for this team.
     
  9. Dr of Dunk

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    1) And yet, as you admitted, Jackson's done jack without those players. Wh
    2) I believe Shaq won one with the Heat.
    3) And I do believe Jackson carted Tex Winter around with him where he went... the guy that really was the triangle offense innovator, educator, and propagator. Jackson has admitted in the past, to his credit, he wasn't a very good coach and wasn't very basketball-knowledgeable. This is where people like Tex fit in on his staff. Jackson would've made a great librarian, though. Ok, kidding ...

    Then you should agree with Robert Horry who said it best when he said that we often give way too much credit to any one person for titles, and that's one of the reasons why he would choose Rudy T over Jackson or Popovich as a coach.
     
  10. Dr of Dunk

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    Agree with all the above, but not sure about Walton being the one. I honestly don't know what he's done that makes him a possible choice, but I don't follow him much, so who knows. If it's just because he took over during Kerr's brief departure from coaching the Warriors, I get the feeling that team would be good if they lost Kerr and Curry for a while. They seem to be that good.

    I do agree with you on Van Gundy. But Van Gundy has always had solid defenses and seems to be able to have them even with a bunch of no-name guys playing for him. During much of his tenure TMac and/or Yao were injured and he rarely had them at full-strength from what I recall. Maybe one season? I don't remember now - I'd have to look. I don't follow college ball much, but I thought the Celtics were nuts hiring Brad Stevens, but what do I know... lol. My reasoning was that I wasn't sure most veteran players were going to want to listen to some guy from college basketball with no NBA experience to speak of that looked like an 18 year old.
     
  11. Carl Herrera

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    JVG has no problems with Les. His problem is with Toad Smith.

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  12. daywalker02

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    He is not a cancer.

    He is clueless about Bball and a very stubborn man who happens to be rich.
     
  13. LosPollosHermanos

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    LOL!!!!
     
  14. LosPollosHermanos

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    Lets the best player in franchise history retire as a Raptor.

    I wonder if Dirk or Duncan would get anywhere close to even being considered as trade bait.

    Inherited a championship team and thought he was the reason for the rings. Bottom owner in the NBA.
     
  15. Doctor Robert

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    Yes... I've seen you post this 100 times.

    Hakeem wasn't exactly self-reflective. He couldn't grasp his own demise, and adjust his game. Duncan's role has evolved and he has accepted and adjusted based on his physical abilities. Hakeem to this day "wants the ball".

    You do realize that we're one of the best franchises in the NBA? The team has great value. We haven't won it all, but we consistently win - this is an accomplishment since only one team wins a championship each year. Les demanded that the team not crater to rebuild, which was an extremely risky move that most people disagreed with. He thought it was his responsibility to put a good team on the court every year despite the easy path of losing to get a high draft pick.

    Most of these complaints I see against Les are single-minded whiny BS.
     
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  16. sirbaihu

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    LOL people b****ing about the owner. It's like b****ing that your neighbor's car is not awesome enough. If you don't like it, get your own!
     
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  17. tinman

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    lol at you.

    first of all cyberx has the inside scoop , he's proven it.

    also all the long time fans have experienced this. there's also been lots of proof of luxury tax evasion, etc.
    barkley claiming he was owed money (notice how kenny, chuck and ernie don't even question him)


    i have sources too, but i only choose to tell that to my brothers like DaDakota.
     
  18. roslolian

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    Agree. A lot of these people are really ignorant, when you say Les Alexander is a bottom owner in the NBA it shows you have no idea what other owners do in order to milk their franchise dry.

    Like what sirbaihu said why don't you buy your own team if you're gonna complain this much? Its really easy to tell other people how they should be spending their own money LOL
     
  19. CHI

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    I hear that Les is going to clean house this summer and offer the next coach full control of the team, just like the Timberwolves did. JVG would be very interested in this.
     
  20. houtown

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    Understood, the previous post I responded to did not include Shaq, it included both MJ and Kobe Bryant.

    I would not trust Robert Horry's judgement on that, if anything, the Rockets were lucky Jordan went to play baseball, the results speak for their own for Phil Jackson. But credit to Rudy and the Rockets at the time, they did a great job after an amazing run of back to back championships.

    Yes on Tex Winters, Jackson credits Tex Winter's numerous times, Tex was probably more knowledgeable than Phil on the triangle, but on Tex's own, he did not have the same success as Jackson had with his teams.

    I would not consider Jackson to not be very knowledgeable about basketball, I think he studied the system, and I doubt he could have gotten this far without being fluent about basketball, but he did not rely on only the system.

    This is why I speak of intangibles, getting players to believe in one another spiritually, while also incorporating non conventional Native America and philosophical techniques into the mix when he coached his teams. I know it sounds weird, but it worked for his teams.

    It was not that he was not knowledgeable about basketball, but why not have others who know more about a specific system on your staff?

    Bottom line, Jeff Van Gundy I do not possibly think has the intangibles to be a great coach.
     

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