Sources: Jvg not interested in Rockets because of relationship with owner

By that logic, why would any coach take this job?

 

Isn't tinman (and cybrex--this thread) both saying because it's personal...so, other coaches might sympathize, but Les didn't do it to them like he did to JVG.

 

Coaches are hired to be fired. JVG knows that and wouldn't take anything personal.

 

Wouldn't other coaches be able to figure it out though? Hell, its pretty much common knowledge now that JVG didn't resign, he was fired... Adelman didn't get a new contract, because he was essentially fired.... and McHale was fired as a overreaction/emotional/myopic sort of reactionary move that only unstable/meddlesome owners make.

If one presumes that a certain coach wouldn't take the job because of what the owner did to previous coaches, why would any coach take this job?

JVG could have vehemently denied any interest in this coaching job awhile ago... doesn't mean he's going to take the job (or even be offered the job), but I never bought that he would never consider a return here simply based on how things ended before.

 

Pretty much the only way to get a job in the NBA is for the previous coach to be fired. So, that's part of business. But it's rare for a fired coach to get rehired by the same owner....and tinman/cybrex are saying there is a relationship issue with the owner for JVG.

Not too hard to understand, imo. Basically, you don't want to be put into a situation where a past can't be forgotten between boss and employee. No other coaches would be in that situation.

Why would you think this might not be different situation for JVG vs the other jobs he can take?

 

Of course... we know all of that... and yet JVG won't deny (or confirm) that he could possibly coach here again. You also can't deny that Les has a pretty distinct pattern when it comes to moving on from coaches.

This situation is different than any other situation... he lives here, still has a good relationship with the GM (tennis buddies), and the Rockets have more of a motivation/discipline issue than a talent issue.

I just don't believe any situation... even if it was the worst breakup in the history of breakups... is unsalvageable. In this case, its been 10 years... if both sides have mutual interest, things can work.

Or, if Les really wants his way... and wants to be more Suns-like.... they will hire D'antoni and we can all sit back and laugh.

 

A new and upcoming nba coach would take this job.

I don't know why a big name, if there are any left would.

 

You also realize that not all NBA jobs are automatically better than running a prestigious college program.

Everybody is tossing around names like Kevin Ollie, Jay Wright, Calipari, Shaka Smart and Sean Miller... as if they'd all be so grateful for the opportunity to jump to the NBA that they'd up and leave in a seconds notice.

The reality is, the pay difference actually isn't all that much... and they have far more control, overall respect, and ultimately job security as a successful college coach than they ever will in the NBA.

There's also the fact that the NBA will always be there for them... they can literally wait for the *perfect* job to come around before deciding to go for it.

I agree, this is not the perfect job... and from the Rockets side of things, they can't afford to go with an unknown that could disenfranchise its star player, and one that has never before managed a lockeroom of egotistical millionaires, and somehow get them all to adopt a team-first mentality.

 

The Rox are a pretty good situation other than

the team chemistry is being a hot mess, no real system, Daryl playing assistant coach and Les firing coaches almost at will

The Rox are a pretty good situation except for the said above

 

Some people want to hire a guy who questions the success of the greatest coach ever, Phil Jackson and his triangle system.

Jeff Van Gundy will never reach the intangibles and greatness of Phil Jackson, even he had the greatest players as he suggested any one could have won championships with as a coach.

I honestly do not get the fascination with Van Gundy, and I might hope that who ever matters agrees with Me on that for the possible sake of his team.

 

Les needs to suck it up and go and get JVG. We need someone to turn this team around and he seems like the right fit

 

We should just go in another direction.

 

If you're looking for them to hire Phil Jackson... or Greg Poppovich, you're not going to be happy.

There is no *fascination* with JVG other than he's a former NBA head coach who's had success at multiple places, who brings a war mentality to a team in great need of discipline/structure/tenacity/chemistry/killer-instinct, and that he may actually even consider taking this job that on paper is pretty rancid.

If there's another HC with his resume that comes forward... by all means, interview him.

 

I dont get the fascination with Big Chief Triangle.... what has the guy done when he hasnt had the best player in the league? Take MJ and Kobe out of the equation and Phil is mediocre at best... and a self absorbed blowhard to boot...

 

The fascination with Phil Jackson is that he has won eleven rings with the triangle system, and those players you mention, have not won one ring without him as coach.

Jeff Van Gundy could not get out the first round with McGrady and Yao Ming at the time.

I do not think I Am saying he did not need great players, of course he did, but those great players needed him also as a coach who helped them reach their potential on the court.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Jeff Van Gundy wanted the Rockets job for a lot of reasons, it is an overall attractive job. Van Gundy has admitted he didn't communicate with the owner as much as he should have and wishes he had handled the relationship different. Jeff was a very young coach when he took over the Rockets.

What would surprise me would be Les Alexander wanting Van Gundy back. I know Van Gundy reached out to Alexander years ago and they are now at a minimum cordial... But for Alexander to bring back Van Gundy, that would surprise me.

 

Morey will vouch for Van Gundy to less. Les will tell Morey its your ass if it doesn't work. Morey will tell Van Gundy that he'll take care of Les and just worry about coaching the team. That being said, I now get the feeling Gundy won't come here.

 

Phil Jackson is like steroids, if you give them to someone who is already a physical specimen then they will become super human.

If you give them to a 300 lb slob, no one will be able to notice

 

Not only has Les fired JVG, Adelman and McHale but he fired Rudy T too....just after cancer.

DD