Sources: Houston has started contacting teams about trading Dwight Howard

If Howard is untradable at 20 mil in his prime. Try trading Howard 3-4 years later on his decline at 40 mil. We would have to offer assets, 1st and 2nd round picks!

 

While this is for sure shocking to see, what people need to realize is that with the cap spike, team's will straight up run out of players to pay because they are going to be forced to have a payroll equal to at least 90% of the total cap.

So, you're going to have pay someone, might as well be a guy like Dwight. Russillo had a great breakdown of this idea. We're rapidly approaching another era of insanely laughable contracts. Perhaps that Dwight contract will be one of them....or perhaps it'll prevent a team from being forced to pay a Drew Gooden some ridiculous cash

 

No one, I repeat, no one will OFFER Dwight the max. And if that is the reason he wants to leave then Dwight is a stupid person, a very rich man but stupid. But who could blame him with all the money being given out in sports, he'd be even stupider not to ask for the max. He doesn't fully understand his value but but he knows he's at least going to get around 18-20 mil, ask for the max maybe he gets 25 but no one in this league will pay Dwight Howard 30 million dollars to do what he's done here

 

I think Dwight will get anywhere between 20-25 mill a season for 5 years. When you have scrubs like Parsons making 15 mill and Ryan Anderson looking to cash in on 20 mill a season. A few teams will not care about 25 mill.

 

be prepared to be amazed

 

You guys will hate me for this idea...but Wojo reported yesterday Andrea Bargnani will be released after the trade deadline if he is not traded. I could see Morey picking him up and use him for a stretch 4/center.

He sucks for 3 point land this season but he's a career 35%.

 

Hmm. Waive Terry bring in Bargnani. I can see that happening.

 

i know everyone is waiting on Dwight news.., but what about our other scrubs

Terrence Jones, Corey Brewer, Ty Lawson

No rumors? Are we sticking with this guys

 

It would be absolutely insane and ridiculous if Dwight were making $10 million more than Harden, which is probably going to end up happening.

 

We can discuss this when the Jazz or Pistons make the Finals, yes? How about just their conference Finals? With Drummond/Gobert as one of the top 2 players, ok??

Again, my alternative case studies for you are the Warriors, Spurs, Thunder, Raptors, etc.

Dwight has insisted throughout his career on low post touches. This is a Dwight issue .... what he wants, vs. what he should get.

An offensive big with an actually relevant and great low post game would still work in the NBA. Mind you, that is NOT what Dwight, Drummond, Gobert, etc. are. An offensive big with an actually relevant offensive game... likely stretches the floor by shooting 3s in todays NBA (cough, cough, Demarcus Cousins)

Yes, true, but also indicative of how the NBA has changed, which is my point.

The expanding salary cap aside, even the dominant defense rebounding put back centers you don't want to be considered one of your top 2 players. Or 3 players. They will still get paid, big time. There is a BIG cap, and you still need athletic, defensive size to win.

But in today's NBA, you want DeAndre Jordan, without him thinking he can be the man (what he wanted in Dallas, not what he is in LA), with a much better FT%, and his contract. DJ isn't driving the Clippers boat in any way. He's defensive backbone and great athleticism, paid appropriately. If he could hit a FT that'd be great.

I think you think I am saying the NBA doesn't need great bigs anymore. Which is not what I'm saying. I'm saying great bigs don't exist much, or frankly at all, anymore, that the new great bigs you might see have games that are not like Dwight's (or Drummond's), and that Dwight's style of play, even recognizing his age decline, "fit" in the NBA of 10 years ago better than today.

How many dominant offensive centers are there, period??? That's the point.

You MIGHT be able to point to Cousins. Maybe. But he's not exactly an efficiency monster. And when you get to defense, he leaves something to be desired. Also, keep in mind, Cousins SHOOTS threes. He's shot more 3's so far this year than Hakeem did his entire career, for example.

More to the point, If I'm looking at big men, for the future, KAT is far and away, imo, the guy to look at. Offense game that has low post moves, put backs, range, the occasional three, ability to put the ball on the floor a bit, etc.

If I ask GMs across the league, KAT or Drummond, I think 30 out of 30 choose KAT.

You might say, sure, but KAT is just the better player. Not quite the rebounder or defender, but still good and obviously better offensively. Ok fine.

What about Draymond Green or Drummond? My bet is that at least 20 out of 30 GMs take Green over Drummond as well.

It is what it is. It doesn't mean that Drummond, Gobert, DJ, Dwight aren't valuable, aren't sought after or in demand... but it does have ramifications on how to build a team in today's NBA.

 

James makes 15.7 this year. 16.7 next, 17.7 after that. Then he will cash in on 30 mill a year.

He makes 15 mill off Adidas a year & add the other commercials he does. You would think James is fine....... right?

But then calculate the yearly 4 mill he makes it rain in the strip club , 2 mill on alcohol & James will be bankrupt by 2029.

 

We do need a big... he's a black hole defensively. Not once has his net rating been positive. If he can stretch though, he could be serviceable. Hard to believe he's the same age as Dwight LOL Been in the league 10 years. Ehh for nothing, id roll the dice. Not giving up anything for him though.

 

Was just listening to 610 and Nick Wright claims he heard that the Rockets tried to send Dwight to the Clippers this summer for DeAndre Jordan. If true, this says a lot about what the Rockets plans are. It also tells me this team is WAY more dysfunctional than any of us knew.

 

IN reference to Bargnani

 

Now that we have added orlando to the teams with humongous capspace i think dwight will find someone to pay him at least 27-30 flat. But not with the rises and for sure not with the 7.5% and 5th year.

 

I saw something from Ric Bucher saying the Rox want to move Dwight and are doing everything in their power to do it before the deadline but then he mentioned moving him to Brooklyn as a suggestion and that's where I stopped reading

 

uhm i dont think this would even be possible with DeAndre being a free agent. He wouldnt be able to be traded I think december PLUS could you imagine the PR ****show that would have been? Clippers would not have been able to sign a future FA ever

 

Ric "What are you a Rocket's fan" Bucher?

 

610 for sources is as legitimate as Chris Broussard.

 

What.... DeAndre was a free agent. Houston didn't have the cap space to sign him I'm pretty sure even in a S&T scenario. I don't think these 610 idiots know what the hell they are talking about.

Now where this is coming from likely is from here... yep.... from our very own Cyberx. Those guys come here all the time you better believe, and look for fodder to talk about, and its probably the best one stop shop for any Rockets rumor.

Cyberx rumored that Morey had mentioned in a meeting (assumed to be kepth private) that if the Rockets had DeAndre (assuming under his former contract) that they'd actually be a better team. Again you have to take assumptions with the Cyberx posts like this. I'm assuming that Morey was talking about if they had DeAndre at a lower cost they could go out and get more sub players, and on offense DeAndre just does what he does, and doesn't command the ball.

So again... I think these 610 guys are probably referring to this rumor from last year, and acting like they know something that is above what we know.