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Sources: Growing discontent among Cavs

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by J.R., Jan 16, 2018.

  1. roslolian

    roslolian Member

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    No, because the problem is not Lebron or Wiggins it is their FO.
     
  2. roslolian

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    Lebron is definitely part of the problem, first of all he interfered with the Cavs plans and asked Wiggins to be traded for Love, we know this because upon joining the team he penned a public letter addressed to the team stars and Wiggins wasn't mentioned. Secondly he ran his coach out of town and put in Lue who doesn't know ****. Finally he is forcing Jae Crowder and Love to play out of position, if Lebron really wanted to win he would be Draymond Green 3.0 and play center so Love can be PF and Crowder can be sf which are their natural positions.

    However at the end of the day Lebron is still Lebron, he is still the best player on the planet. If the Cavs didn't waste all of their picks apart from Irving they would have even more talent than GSW by now.
     
  3. Andre0087

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    You might as well offer a bag of scrotum flakes, a used condom, and a bottle of moonshine.
     
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  4. hakeemthagreat

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    So maybe instead of "more help" Lebron needs to commit to his teammates & organization. U do realize the Cavs have bent over backwards for Lebron right? As the leader of the team he's not really doing a good job so far
     
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  5. Ramathorn006

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    Two coaches who were absolute trash? LeBron has never had an elite coach.
     
  6. daywalker02

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    They are getting old quickly. Raps are younger and hungrier. It's not just Lebron.

    Come playoffs, they will make a last stand but is it enough, mediocre chemistry to be exact, remains to be seen.
     
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  7. JumpMan

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    Spoelstra.

    In Miami he had an organization. Great coach, legendary president in Riley, and a great owner. But no control. Hmm.
     
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  8. RyanB

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    It's possible, look at Dallas in 2011
     
  9. Nook

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    Highly unlikely that the Warriors would beat a healthy Rockets team with Paul, Harden, Ariza, James and DJ.

    Arguably the two best players on either team are James and Harden and they both would hypothetically be on the Rockets.

    The Rockets would also have a huge advantage at C.

    While the Warriors would have an advantage on the bench, it matters less when James and Harden and Jordan and Ariza are playing 40 minutes a night.
     
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    they have size with tristian, but i guess they meant size with skill!
     
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  12. JumpMan

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    Que Allen Iverson
     
  14. A_3PO

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    Makes sense but this means IT may disrupt their offense more than help it for quite some time. Kevin Love has been a near 20/10 guy with decent efficiency until now. IT's effect on him is worth watching IMO.

    Another thing is playing IT and Love at the same time prevents the Cavs from being a good defensive team. Those two are not a good fit on the same roster
     
  15. celebrevida

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    Spoelstra is a good coach but I don't know about elite. He's probably at Scotty Brooks level.
     
  16. Air Langhi

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    He has had about the same amount success as in miami. He has been to 3 finals and won 1. He might have won another if the KD didn't join the warriors or if Kyrie and Love weren't hurt.
     
  17. JumpMan

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    Check the standings. Check the Heat's roster.

    I know. He's not bad as a player/coach/GM.

    All in all, I think he prefers the control that he has in Cleveland.
     
  18. Corpusfan

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    Yes please!
     
  19. True Rocket

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    Whatever they do i suggest they keep that nets pick. You can at least give your fans a player like Michael Porter Jr after LeBron departs
     

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