Sources: Eric Gordon seeking buyout - trying to make his way to the Suns

You have things all mixed up.

 

It wasn't Morey who was anti-Tank, that was Les who forced him to remain competitive.

Morey would much rather have gone with "trust the process" and tank. He said as much on several occasions.

 

Agreed, and I think if Stone is to stay in his role I personally feel like he needs to be humbled. The past two trade deadlines where he lied to Woj to try and manipulate the market was embarrassing for the team, and I don’t feel like he’s shown that he’s learned anything. I wouldn’t be shocked at all if today Woj reports the Rockets have multiple offers for 1st round picks for EG and then tomorrow nothing happens.

Or more than likely Stone has told that to Woj but since he’s been burned two years in a row he’s just not reporting Stones BS.

This is a relationship business and I just feel like Stone likely has no trust with other GM’s, agents, and intermediaries like Woj.

 

Received a notification on bleacher report that PHO and LAC both want Gordon ! He’s gonna be gone finally .. I can feel it

 

KD is cool and all and would obviously get us wins but is he a guy who you trade almost the entire house for besides Sengun and Green to help with development?

Green especially needs development from a savy vet guard like a Conely Jr. KD isn't that. KD might show what elite work ethic looks like but he isn't going to show Green how to play like a smart guard. KD has generational gifts that let him take what usually are considered "bad shots" and still be efficient. He doesn't have to "play the right way".

It's like MJ being a coach. "have you tried being faster and more agile than everyone else in the league?"

 

Yeah but you don't base your team's future strategy around scrubs like Jalen Green, you base it around the best players on the team, not the worst.

That said, there's no scenario where going after old man KD makes any sense whatsoever.

 

You have to think about who's the source for that report. If it's the Rockets then we've been down this road before... *fingers crossed.

 

Lol it ain't gonna happen but could you imagine the dream of trading EG for CP3?

KPJ and Green would have the point god himself training them.

 

You don’t like Jalen, huh? I understand some disappointment, but he’s no scrub imo

 

I personally don't feel one way or the other about him, it's just objective fact that he's one of the worst players in the league.....or rather most detrimental to his team. You can't really say "worst" because there's no player as terrible as him that is allowed to play as much.....well, other than Jabari Smith.

On any other team, Jalen would be buried on the bench till he developed some basketball skills.

As of right now, he's absolutely a scrub. Now there's some fluke hot games in the mix, but the vast majority of his career has been a clown show....especially what passes for his "defense" which is the worst I've ever seen.

 

In theory, theory that is, the effort was (or shoulda been) collaborative.

 

(bad acting) "I'm sure Luke wasn't on that thing when it blew."
(even worse acting) "He wasn't." (coked-out pause) "I can feel it."

 

The Suns need their picks to make a run at a big piece, like an OG or even a Durant in the offseason. I don’t see them dealing a 1st for EG. They likely want to convert whatever they can get for Crowder plus maybe a little more, for EG. And let’s face it, they’re not getting much for Crowder.

the team that interests me the most is the Clippers. They don’t have any 1st rounders till 2027 and I doubt they’d give up a 1st for EG. But they have guys like Moses Brown, who have a lot of upside.

 

Sorry but this is pure hyperbole. His first step alone gets him a starting spot on 7/10 teams and worst case 6th man.

 

Not many teams want to play the worst defensive player in the league that many minutes and his inefficient scoring doesn't make up for it at all.... even with the quick first step.

You're basically arguing style over quality.

 

No, I’m arguing that tier 1 skill is valued over results for high draft picks on rookie contract (that aren’t clear projects). He takes bad shots. So does 90% of the team. I’m not sure what games you’ve been watching to get the impression that he isn’t impressive enough to start — for the worst team in the league.

 

Maybe the fact that when he didn't play we actually won? His defense is atrocious. No one is saying he doesn't have potential. But the Rocket enabling him to play after the crap effort he puts out on defense night in and night out is hurting his development as a player. He is developing some pretty bad habits. The best game he played was when he was pissed off and tried to fight cuz he actually played defense the rest of the game. We need that effort from him every night. As long as he does that it doesn't matter how many points he scored on how many shots.

 

We also lost games lol

That is the most meaningless, anti context point you could possibly make. Hey we also won games without Yao and Harden. Hell we won against the Jazz with no Harden, cp3 and capela…

and we also LOST games while he was out…

Y’all seem shocked that he had his worst two games after being out for several games…it happens.

 

He's currently the second worst performing player on the worst team in the league...a team that probably wouldn't be the worst team in the league if he just never played at all.

Him having a quick first step is irrelevant given that he's not capable of doing anything with it right now because he has no bag... he can't shoot.... and he's the worst defensive player in the league.

Those negatives far outweigh any positives so if there was ANY accountability on the Rockets he'd basically never play till he improved significantly

 

For Green's career the Rockets have won more games with him out than they've lost with him out.... as the worst team in the league.

Jalen is a large reason why the Rockets have been as bad as they've been the past year and a half.

Simply bench Jalen and the rest of the team would give you significantly more wins.