Sources: Dwight isn't "thrilled" with PG situation.

*insert multiple sources pic here*

 

Clutchfans posters not thrilled with "sources".

 

And you told me my post was bad. It's clear you have an agenda, nice to see studogg shut everyone of your stupid points down. Sorry, Lin will never be anything more than a one dimensional turnover prone can't shoot pg.

 

No, please, no.

Stop posting.

 

LOL

Learn how to write out your thoughts clearer

 

Lowry?

 

team cancer.

 

I wouldn't say Beverly is overvalued. He is plenty good for what they are paying him. Is Lin better? Sure, but he's also getting paid like 10 times more than what PatB is paid. He better be better!

 

Wow what a coherent sentence you just put together. Again, out of my original post, how the hell do you get the fact I said we should trade Lin for Lowry?

 

Go back to jeremylin.net and let the real fans have a conversation.

 

Shane Battier's offensive prowess wasn't commensurate to his value as defender, yet Morey traded away a lottery pick for him.

 

And here people we have a serious case of stupiditis. If Lin is a one dimensional, turnover cant shoot player what that make Harden and his NBA leading turnovers, 3 point shot in the 20's and oh by the way shot worst than Lin last year and so far this year? You dare call Lin one dimensional when Harden and Bev are on this team? Laughable. Thanks for the laugh man. You sir have been exposed as having a anti Lin agenda.

 

Is this a response to yourself? This huge rant of your is largely on some tangent you made up. Yes, good point guards don't come cheap. No, I didn't say get Kyle Lowry. All I said was we lack a good PG, but Lowry isn't going to be it and I welcome more discussions on finding another replacement.

Not sure how you're getting hung up on my "Beverly and Brooks genetic mutant" metaphor. All I'm trying to say is neither Brooks nor Beverly are good facilitators. Obviously Brooks has SOME ability to facilitate, but even in his best 2009 year he had what 5 assist per game?

The Rockets play right now with our SGs playing the role of PGs and our PGs playing the roles of SGs. That's just a product of what our players are capable of, not an ideal setup. Beverly/Lin/Brooks fit into our current existing system? Well duh, it's built for them.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/194/104/never-go-full-r****d-tee_design.png

Do you watch Tony Parker play or are you just posting stats you can find on ESPN? Tony Parker used to be a ball chucker in his early days, but nowadays he is a balanced shooter and facilitator. He's not a pass first PG, but he's not a shoot first PG either. In the spirit of the "Biggest Ball Hog" article from earlier this year. I've decided to extend the list to some point guards.

Player vs Passing %
Ricky Rubio (MIN) 82.37
Chris Paul (LAC) 76.88
Tony Parker (SAS) 74.81
Goran Dragic (PHX) 72.13
Stephen Curry (GSW) 69.94
Kyrie Irving (CLE) 68.57
Russell Westbrook (OKC) 64.87

 

Ohhhhh. Doesnt it just suck when someone completely debunks a point you tried to oawn off as fact. Parker a ball hog. Tee Hee

 

We have a plethora of good 3 point shooters in Parsons, Harden, Brooks, Lin, Casspi and Garcia. We also have 2 good finishers with Howard and Jones. There should be plenty of assists to go around on this team.

I wouldn't have so much of a problem if Lin wasn't so inconsistent starting as a PG. I'm just basing it off an eye test, but I also remember there being some stats posted that Lin performed better as a back up SG in the Bev/Lin combo than as a starting PG with Harden. It seems like the pressure of facilitating gets to him and he throws up bad passes while in the air.

Not saying our PG situation is a disaster, just saying there's something to be desired. I'm also very curious to what Cannan can do as well.

 

I always forget that Murray is such a stud gm he was making trades while Dawson had the title.

 

how cute. you used a picture. i guess that ends the discussion now that I know I'm chatting with an imbecile.

 

Yes I dared. Haha wow. My post was a gross exageration and I don't actually believe it, but wow some of you guys have a crazy Lin obsession.

I actually think Lin is a good player whose strengths are so exagerated that I have to exagerate my own criticisms. Blame this on delusional sheeple fans like yourself, so thats all you pretty much exposed.

I wasn't going to answer the Harden point because he has pissed me off so much lately, but you dug yourself a hole on that one. I get angry at Harden's play and think he should be benched when he doesn't play D or slacks like he did vs Phoenix, but the fact that he is still one of the NBA's top players even when he has had bad stats should tell you that he is anything but one dimensional. He drives to the basket, draws fouls, opens up the floor. Don't try to compare Lin to Harden...ever again. I know that its some sort of obsession that you guys have but it just shows how out of touch you are.

 

*sigh*

The math was already done last year AND this year.

Lin was one of the most consistent players on the team post ASB last year, and was by FAR the most consistent player THIS year.

Go look at the game splits. Lin has easily been our most consistent shooter, scorer and assist man this year, whether he's been playing as the Starter OR as the 2nd unit.

And while his defense isn't elite, he always puts a consistent effort on defense. Whether that's contesting, rotating, or getting back in transition.

As for the TO's, they are averaging 2.9TO/game, in line with last year. Yes, he still does spectacular bonehead TO's. A good chunk of his TO's also come from chemistry issues (still being worked out).

More importantly a significant portion of his TO's come from his style of play.

When you create, either to facilitate or to drive to the basket you're going to get TO's. And you *want* Lin to create because he's an Elite player when it comes to creating off Drives. And I don't just toss around the word Elite.

Lin has one of the fastest first steps in the league and is exceptional once he gets into the lane.

Lin is currently top 10 in the NBA in drives per game, points per drive, team points per drive, completion percentage on drives, and points from passes off drives for ANY position. When you drive into the teeth of the defense as often as Lin does, you are going to get more TO's because it's such a high reward play that has some risk.

http://www.bsports.com/statsinsights/nba/monta-ellis-ty-lawson-jeremy-lin-nba-best-drivers

PPG from drives - 7th in NBA (Just behind Tony Lawson)
FG% from drives - 4th in NBA (Just behind Lebron)
Team PPG from Drives - 5th in NBA (Just behind Toney Parker)
Team Points from Passes from Drives - 10th in NBA (Just behind Brandon Jennings)

This is why Morey has said on multiple radio interviews that the team just has to accept that players like Harden and Lin are going to get Turnovers. If you never pass for assists, and you never drive into the paint, you're not going to get many turn overs.

Look at it this way

... if you get the ball and always shoot, you'll rarely get a turn over.
... if you get the ball and try to pass, sometimes you'll get a turn over.
... if you get the ball and drive to the basket, sometimes you'll get a turn over.
... if you get the ball, drive AND try to pass, sometimes you'll get a turn over.

Players like Harden and Lin do ALL of the above, so they have the maximum opportunities to turn the ball over. Players like Beverley who only occasionally pass, and mostly drive in order to shoot will only occasionally get a turn over.

The difference is, players like Harden and Lin will score a ton AND get a bunch of assists AND get fouled while they're getting their turn overs.

And clearly Morey has learned to live with it to some degree. Sure, both can still reduce their turn overs, but when you're as efficient at going to the basket as Harden and Lin, it's the trade off you make.

 

Not overvalued by Morey. Morey knows his value and you see his value in the contract that Morey gave him. He won't be getting a "big" contract upgrade here, as Morey knows that defense/hustle guys are easy to replace.

But he will be overvalued by other GM's who overvalue defensive players.

Bev will be traded and Lin will be kept because Lin has the rarer skill set. And Les wants Lin.

The issue of money is immaterial, it's not our money it is Les's money. And it means nothing to us if Les wants to overpay for Lin, because it won't affect Les's spending in regards to other roster upgrades. If Asik + Bev can get us a good upgrade, Les will foot the bill no worries.