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Sources: Dwight isn't "thrilled" with PG situation.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cyberx, Nov 8, 2013.

  1. Remii

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    Since the rumors are going on with Asik being traded to Philly _ it wouldn't surprise me at all if Wroten is included in the trade package... A 6-6 guard that can play the PG, SG, and SF positions.

    But I don't believe Morey is going after a point guard in the upcoming draft if he can get that New Orleans 1st round pick from Philly. I think they are happy with Canaan and I believe Canaan being drafted has as much to do with McHale as it does Morey... The kid is like Bobby Jackson 2.0 with a 40 inch vertical and is money from distance. It's several big time small forwards coming out in this draft and that's what I believe Morey has his eyes on because I'm not a believer in Morey wanting to pay Parsons $10-$12 million a year.
     
  2. borednsleepy

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    Send Dwight Howard to NYC for Tyson Chandler. From what I see, Jim Dolan likes to create drama beside renovating MSG, he will get along well with Dwight. Get Jason Kidd as our 3rd PG. the way he spilled his 50g, he would prolly burn down the arena in Lakers game, bwahahaha....
     
  3. wise_man

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    Our point guards suck!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bev plays dome defence but his shooting is awful. Lin is shooting good, but is he the championship point guard???? Brooks is better then bev and lin.dwight knows what he is talking about..dwight is working hard on his free throws and we are seeing it...
     
  4. ihatekobe

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    lol AB is a turnover machine and plays no D.
     
  5. RoxOn RoxOff

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    Suddenly our point guards are the worst point guards in the world.

    #thisboard
     
  6. BallWiz

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    ??? First off it depends what the team style of play is. Second you need to calm down read your post all your doing is dissing pg's what's your deal? You seem like an ass know it all maby you should be a GM.
     
  7. beastlyball

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    What is all this madness about championship? We don't even have a legitimate superstar on our team! Dwight and Harden are mere stars masquerading as superstars. One can play offense but don't play D, the other is a top defender with a non-reliable post move. Lets not even talk about Free throws...

    Fact of the matter is, the Rox have decided to put Harden as the center piece of our championship hope. I'm not one to buy into this garbage. He is not capable of leading this team to the ring.

    On top of all that they have McFail for the head coach...need I say more??
     
  8. studogg

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    brooks can't create shots????? really?
     
  9. beastlyball

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    Or maybe I'm just speaking my mind..... Depends on what style of play???? What style of play calls for a backup PG to come in and play major minutes? A PG who don't run the offense, and barely register on the assist radar? A PG whom is pumped up to be a great defender when in fact is average at best? Gary Payton is a great defending PG. Bev is a high energy guy, that is it. Nothing more, nothing less.
     
  10. quatin

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    Rhetorical question or are you actually asking?

    Brooks is a shoot first PG. He gets some dishes out sometimes, but let's not pretend that's his strong suit.The best tongue in cheek analysis I've read of Brooks was by McGuire:

    To sum up Brooks’ game if you’re not familiar: he’s a tiny, score first, second and third point guard who brings almost no defensive value to the floor. He has unlimited range on his jumper and an uncanny ability to spin the ball off the glass to score around the basket.

    For Brooks, context is everything. If he’s your team’s starting point guard, you’re in bad, bad shape. But as a third-sting point guard, he’s about as good as it gets. In the playoffs (knock on wood), he’s a total X-factor who could step in for an injured player and either get burned so bad that he costs you the series, or win it all single-handed with crazy 28-foot rainbows.
     
  11. masc0635

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    Dragic just likes Lin, needs ball on his hands. As long as Harden in Rox, I don't see any chance we can (or need to) get a "true" PG.
     
  12. Remii

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    Players who can create shots for other players are usually players who can score themselves... Players who draw the attention of the opposing defense (as in commanding double teams) which opens up the court for their teammates on the offensive end. I believe you may be confusing a TRUE point guard _ a guy who can run a designed offense like Rondo (which the Rockets don't do) with a shot creating point guard like Westbrook. Once upon a time Brooks was more in a Westbrook mold than a Rondo mold... A guy who can create shots....
     
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    Ok whatever you say buddy.
     
  14. LosPollosHermanos

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    Congrats. You are are a dumbass who probably never saw the rockets play before they got Lin.
     
  15. studogg

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    The topic of my post is that yours sucked. You indicated that taking a defensive minded pesky point guard and a penetrating/shot creating (yes, you need to understand that shot creation comes from not only being able to dish, but also from being able to penetrate and create for yourself or kick for the open three - something AB still does well) point guard - combining them and adding three inches would leave us in need when it would create a combo that would likely be a 10-15 mil a year player.

    Furthermore, the prototypical point guard you are referencing doesn't grow on trees. Last time I checked, the only pass first quality guard that is even being breathed about as potentially on the market is Rondo - thus my use of him as a point of reference and also calling out the troubles with that type of player.

    I immediately dismiss the likes of a Kyle Lowry - we maximized return for a heavily flawed player that is mentally weak. Score for Morey. We don't need to go down that path again.

    Add back in Lin and our PG position is fine. Not great, but you also can't have an all-star at every position.

    What we do need though, is someone that can create his own shot that comes off the bench - and preferably have that as a wing player so he could spell Harden on off nights - and be the primary spark/6th man on most nights.

    Furthermore - if you watch the offensive sets we run, it is not predicated on a PG getting us into the flow. It is an inside-out offense that moves off penetration for layups or kickouts for threes and dumping it in to a big man for post play or passing to cutters for layups or outside for three.

    Given that - our primary need from a PG is someone that can hang with the elite PG's on the defensive side of the ball and spread the floor with the three.

    Can Lin do that?
    No. There are some matchups he wins given his size, but the Westbrooks/Pauls of the world are simply too quick and eat him up.

    Can Bev do that?
    Yes. He has the footspeed and peskiness to limit their games (they will still get theirs - but won't demand continued double teams and will shoot a lower %). His key is keeping his 3pt % up. Something nobody knew he could even do when coming into the league, yet he's been surprisingly efficient. When you hit the group of larger plodding PG's that he has a hard time handling - Jeremy flourishes against that group.

    Where does brooks fit in?
    Injury replacement - spark off the bench and as you even indicated, an x-factor.

    If you were telling me that you could package Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin for a Westbrook, Paul, Lillard - I would do it in a heartbeat. But everyone of their GM's would laugh.

    So who is this magical mystery person you refer to? I live in the real world where our options are limited to what is possible.

    Yes, we do need another shot creator (another reason I actually like brooks on this team) - but he's not coming at the point and it could be argued that we need that more at the three.
     
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    A true PG needs the ball in his hand.... Harden needs the ball in his hand....I dont see how a true PG can solve your problem
     
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  19. jump shooter

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    Very well said.
     
  20. quatin

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    I guess I can clarify my definitions better. I want a facilitator PG. That would be someone who looks to setup his team mates. Both Brooks and Westbrook are shoot first PGs. Not going to say this type of play doesn't work, I'm just stating my preference for a facilitator type of PG like Tony Parker.
     

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