1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Sources: Dwight doesn't see himself as a Rocket next year

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cyberx, Mar 21, 2016.

  1. SF3isBack!!

    SF3isBack!! Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2007
    Messages:
    10,163
    Likes Received:
    1,879
    Ive said this before and they dont even have a true center.
     
  2. Hakeemtheking

    Hakeemtheking Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2009
    Messages:
    9,413
    Likes Received:
    6,581
    I agree. My observation regarding the team's style of play is meant to be factual, not something that I agree with.

    This team needs discipline on both sides of the ball, and we are not going to get that with JB. In fact, our defense went to the chitter a few years ago when Sampson left for UH.
     
  3. malakas

    malakas Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2014
    Messages:
    20,167
    Likes Received:
    15,381
    Fouling for all the game? Great then. Even 50% of his FTs and will be better than most offences and the other team will have fouled out big men.
    Dwight makes the other team unable to play much small ball as well.

    While players like Noel or Noah can be easilly guarded by a wing.(or not at all when the playoffs hit).
     
  4. Caesar

    Caesar Member

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2014
    Messages:
    6,318
    Likes Received:
    6,381
    I hope we replace Dwight with Von Wafer. Harden needs to give him his number back.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. ksny15

    ksny15 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2013
    Messages:
    14,893
    Likes Received:
    7,580
    Bye Dwight!
     
  6. HtownRock

    HtownRock Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2015
    Messages:
    400
    Likes Received:
    15
    This is total utter nonsense.

    Reality Check : Dwight has been a negative offensive player since the day he joined the Rockets.


    2013-2014

    ORPM -0.67
    OBPM -0.3

    2014-2015

    ORPM -0.12
    OBPM -2.4

    2015-2016

    ORPM -0.35
    OBPM -0.9

    Are you saying the fact that Dwight has failed to be a positive offensive force for even a single season is all on the Rockets team, and Dwight has no personal responsibility for this disaster? What about the year before he joined this team? Same Story. He was a minus offensive player in the Lakers also.

    Dwight's offense is efficient? This is just comedy at its purest. The only way he effectively scores is through P&R or alley-oops. That's it. Those two and some put back dunks are the only reasons why Dwight is able to maintain somewhat of a respectable FG%, otherwise it will be close to 50%.

    I mean what else is there? Dwight's post up is actually one of the least efficient ways that we can score. His post up game generate merely 0.82 points per possession, well below league average (per NBA.com). BTW, we are shooting 34.3% at the 3 point line as a team this year. That's 1.03 points per attempt. So your claim that shooting more 3s instead of giving ball to Dwight is what's wrong with this team is just flat out empirically false. Hack, even the much hated Harden's dribble dribble iso generates more points per possession than Dwight's post up. It's 0.93 ppp. By your logic, we should totally abandon Dwight's post up game and just go with Harden's iso all day. Oh, now you don't like that do you?

    DOFs are putting blame on everybody except Dwight, and it's becoming palpably obvious what their true agenda is. They are desperately trying to deflect even the legitimate criticisms going towards Dwight's way, which is deeply dishonest and unfairly tarnishes other players' reputation for the sake of Dwight's. The reason why Dwight doesn't get as many as touches is simply he sucks on offense. That has been apparent since the Lakers days and I can back up this claim with all the evidence in the world.

    The main problem here is you have failed to realize that Dwight's field goal percentage is inflated by basically Harden and other players spoon feeding him with easy dunks and alley-oops. And then disingenuously use that figure to argue Dwight should get more touches, when there is objective evidence that his post up efficiency is even below league average, and doesn't generate as much points per possession as shooting 3s or even Harden's iso. Shame on you, but not everyone on this forum is stupid and will just not let this BS fly by.
     
    3 people like this.
  7. dobro1229

    dobro1229 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2010
    Messages:
    25,669
    Likes Received:
    22,375
    Truth:

    We got what we paid for with the years we got of Dwight, and he was worth signing and paying. Yes, we didn't win the title, but we had 2 of the most successful seasons in Rockets history since Hakeem went over the hill.

    However:

    There is nothing more than scares me about the Rockets future than Dwight Howard resigned on a max, near max, or even significantly large contract. Nothing I can think of (short of a major Harden injury... knock on wood) could have the crippling effects of Dwight resigned if Dwight's career trajectory continues its path to where its been going for several years.

    I'd love to have Dwight back on a value contract, but that's not going to happen. I think Dwight has accepted this some time ago. The evidence we needed to see what Dwight turning back the clock against Milwaukee, and then nights later playing against Toronto (a team that has publicly said they have no interest in him) barely shows up. Dwight has been focused on getting to another team for some time, and obviously the Rockets have been focused on the post Dwight years for some time as well.
     
  8. xtruroyaltyx

    xtruroyaltyx Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2011
    Messages:
    12,462
    Likes Received:
    15,889
    Good. I like dwert but he should not be here.
     
  9. alethios

    alethios Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    7,974
    Likes Received:
    6,016
    That just sounds wrong, but then, that's our Dwight!
     
  10. PhiSlamma15

    PhiSlamma15 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2014
    Messages:
    4,581
    Likes Received:
    1,047
    Nailed It
     
  11. Easy

    Easy Boban Only Fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Messages:
    38,082
    Likes Received:
    29,505
    I see. Dwight is a poor man's DeAndre Jordan.
     
  12. PhiSlamma15

    PhiSlamma15 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2014
    Messages:
    4,581
    Likes Received:
    1,047
    When Morey couldn't trade Howard at the deadline I felt the Rox problems would become even more problematic with D12 taking it extra personal. He's playing "extra wimpy" post trade deadline in my opinion
     
  13. PhiSlamma15

    PhiSlamma15 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2014
    Messages:
    4,581
    Likes Received:
    1,047
    from that stanpoint Jordan DESTROYED Howard last week
     
  14. HtownRock

    HtownRock Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2015
    Messages:
    400
    Likes Received:
    15
    Word of advice : Next time, do some fact checking before displaying your utter ignorance on this subject to the whole wide world.

    Dwight is a superstar? What kind of superstar negatively impacts his team offensively for three straight seasons? What kind of superstar, earning well over $20 mil, does not spend even half of his energy during the regular season games, only to amp it up come playoff time? As I said before, that's called a part-time job and he should get paid accordingly.

    Oh yeah, while we're at it, let's just blame Harden for everything who have produced and contributed to the Rockets' wins more than any other player in the history of this team not named Hakeem, and who have the highest PPG, APG, PER, TS%, RPM, BPM, Win Shares, VORP or any other category that you could come up with. The guy who has the highest production all across the board and contributes to our winning more than anyone on this team day-to-day basis, yeah let's blame that guy instead of $ 20 mil earning, declining center who can't do sh,it offensively if not directly spoon fed and getting outplayed by every elite centers in this league (I'm talking about this season).

    I've now realized where some of the unwarranted hate for this team and players have been coming from. Knowing this, it makes me infinitely more happier that I don't have to see this incompetent over payed man-child and his fawning followers.

    Good Riddance.
     
    1 person likes this.
  15. DwangBoy

    DwangBoy Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2003
    Messages:
    2,136
    Likes Received:
    272
    Did he mention anything about just not being good enough to help a team win consistently anymore ?
     
  16. YaoMing#1

    YaoMing#1 Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    5,482
    Likes Received:
    4,937
    What can't be denied is every team he's played for by the end, both parties won't nothing to do with one another. He rubs front office, coaches and most of all players the wrong way. I think at some point dwight needs to look at himself in the mirror and realize he is the problem.

    I have never heard an ex coach or player run to his defense and say how much they Enjoyed playing with him or how great of a teamate he is. The guy is what he is a physical beast who coaches and players tolerated because he was so darn good bit as soon as that went out the window after his back injury he didn't adapt his personality of gake to fit what his limitations were.

    The rockets are better of without him in the long term anyways I don't think Any of the players will be losing sleep over dwights exit. I think the FO and ownership has grown tired of dwight also. Every body thinks dwights a joke and he's the main reason this team is so hated by media and other fans. It's ok if your winning but in all honesty the rockets peak came with harden running the show and dwight in a suit last year that's just facts.

    He had 23 good playoff games in a rockets jersey that's what his legacy will be here. He failed with another superstar player. That's dwight Howard for you.
     
  17. PhiSlamma15

    PhiSlamma15 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2014
    Messages:
    4,581
    Likes Received:
    1,047
    Nailed It..to think Kobe seems to have been on point about Dwight is annoying on top of it all
     
  18. Hank McDowell

    Hank McDowell Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2002
    Messages:
    7,277
    Likes Received:
    11,962
    Like him, don't care at all if he leaves. Blow it up!
     
  19. SF3isBack!!

    SF3isBack!! Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2007
    Messages:
    10,163
    Likes Received:
    1,879
    Bravo!!! Excellent Post!!
     
  20. danoman

    danoman Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2009
    Messages:
    2,870
    Likes Received:
    869
    Being showcased? It sounds to me like it's all about the money.
     

Share This Page