Sources: Carmelo open to multiyear deal with Rockets

I'm working on the assumption that New York would be absolutely stupid not to use Gallo as the baseline of a trade for Melo. I think that's reasonable because Melo is still relatively young (26), obviously good, no red flags. And this would be different than the Bosh sign and trade because the team they were dealing him to was under the cap and he would've signed there if they didn't trade him anyway.

If we can all agree that my assumption is accurate... who other than Brooks or Martin can we dangle in front of Denver that would be better than what New York is offering? No 5 current backups with potential... if I'm Denver I'll take the guy that is just as young but he's already proven to be an above average player in the NBA. So you have to trade either Brooks or Martin because those are the only guys on our team (other than Yao or Scola) that are better than Gallo.

And also, you have to factor in that if both deals are good for Denver, the tie goes to New York because I think Melo would rather play there over Houston and New York has the advantage of being in the other conference.

 

Sorry if was posted before...

According to RealGM trade Checker...this trade would be succesful...

Carmelo Anthony+Chauncey Billups

For Kevin Martin+Shane Battier+Jared Jeffries+Aaron Brooks

Then We could trade Jordan Hill+filler (or Chuck Hayes+fillers, plus some sweetener if needed) ....for Delfino (to have a defensive SG, needed having Melo)

The team output would be

PG: Billups, Lowry
SG: Delfino, Lee
SF: Melo, Budinger
PF: Scola, Patterson
C: Yao, Miller, (+Hayes or Hill)

This final roster is clearly superior to current roster, isnt' it?
There's a great sweetener still left in the NY picks, just in case of emergency...don't you think?

 

No, we are noticably weaker at PG and SG.....Billups is OLD.....

DD

 

Billips is still a very solid player, but I can't imagine a scenario where we trade both Martin and Brooks.

 

Lee would probably start over Delfino and Lowry over Billups. Still hate to give up Kevin Martin , but it's a decent trade.

 

your crazy if you think lowry is better than billups

 

You do not take a 34 year old PG.....not at this point in his career.

DD

 

Sometimes it's fun to spot the homers in these type of threads. Chauncey Billups, if traded to the Rockets, would be their best PG.



DD, There is absolutely no way you could argue that the Rockets would be noticeably weaker at the PG with Chauney Billups instead of Aaron Brooks. That's not even to mention the upgrade defensively we would get with Chauncey's presence vs. Aarons.

Coachbadlee, I'm going to give you a pass as just being somehow related to Kyle Lowry, but there's no way in hell any coach in the NBA starts Lowry over Billups this season.

 

I doubt he'd be in any deal, unless Denver wanted to lower their cap figure this coming season. His contract is $13.1 million this season, but the last year is only guaranteed for $3.7 million. It's just got those 2 years left.


Oh, what what the guy above just posted!

 

Apparently you like to disregard things like age, potential, career trajectories, etc.

Would they be better this year? Probably.

Two years from now? No.

 

While I would rather just part with one of Brooks or Martin rather than both, but if we ended up making this trade I wouldn't mind. Certainly it makes us a better team. Billups still has 2 more good years in him before he becomes a career backup. And the guy could play till 40 probably just based on the fact he plays good defense, can shoot and is a leader. He wouldn't be averaging 20 a game, but he wouldn't be a waste of space either. If we're planning on having Lowry eventually be the starting PG in 2-3 years, the fact that Billups is old doesn't screw you over.

Also... considering Billups + Melo + decent role players got them 1st in their division a few years in a row... imagine adding Yao, Scola, Lowry, and Lee rather than Denver's supporting cast. Offensively it might be a wash, but on the defensive end I'll take Billups and Melo over Brooks and Martin every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

 

There is this strange idea going around that somehow we would not be a far better team with Carmelo. Within reason, you do ANYTHING in your power to get a player of Carmelo's talent. An armless Carmelo would be far superior to any wingman currently on the Rockets. Guess what? Carmelo has arms! Two of them!

 

It is easier to spot people who are silly enough to take a declining player over two up and coming ones.

It would be one thing if we needed Billups for a one year go at it, but he is slowing down big time on D....

He does not fit this team at all....not in style of play nor in age or ability.

So sorry....Homers are smarter.

And did you honestly pick the PLAYOFF statistics over the regular season ones?

How many games does that encompass 6? I mean that is possibly the worst comparison ever......

Seriously???

Talk about silliness.....

DD

 

Btw - congrats on your 100th post in this thread.

 

I would have taken Steve Nash at 34...

Billups is still a much better player than Aaron Brooks because he can defend...

Problem is, The Nuggets want Lawson to be the guy. I don't think they value AB.

I think they would LOVE to get hands on Scola, which is NOT going to happen...

 

Here for a real comparison when not trying to pull a fast one as LongTimeFan did, and does regularly.....here are the regular season stats for Chauncey....

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/billuch01.html

19.5 PPG
.418 FG%
.386 3pt%
5.6 Apg


BTW - his career FG% is only .416.....he gets some big shots, but as a basketball player, he is consistently overated.........

His defense was not that great last year, a noticable decline in footspeed.

I am not saying he is done, but I would not trade Brooks or Lowry for him at t his point......they have a lot more in them than Chauncey does.

DD

 

Not really. The question asked was if that roster was superior to the current roster. You've answered that question the same way I have: Chauncey Billups would be an upgrade this year. And most likely next year as well. Which, for me, is perfectly fine. We're not getting any younger with Yao. If we can land Melo and Billups, I'm all for it. It would immeditately upgrade our team for the next two years when we can make the championship push. If we can get a player of Melos caliber, you push your chips all-in. Get the most talent you can for this team and go for the championship while Yao still can (hopefully).

I was only responding to the idea that Brooks is better than Billups -- that's just not true. Chauncey Billups is the guy you hope Brooks grows in to, but he'll never be that good of a defender. Ball Don't Lie recently ranked PGs and put Billups 6th (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ba...e-point-guards-10-through-No-1?urn=nba-263267) compared to Brooks at 21 and Lowry 30. That doesn't prove anything, but I think it should knock you off the idea that there is a "noticeable" downgrade when going from Brooks to Billups.

DD, you're right. I didn't even notice they were the playoff stats until I hit submit message. Doh! But I still stand behind those stats -- he's better than Brooks. And will be for at least another two years.. that's all I need him for. He's the Derek Fisher for our championship team.

 

If you don't think we would take Billups at this point in his career for Aaron Brooks(I agree), why do you think Denver wouldn't want Brooks in any trade scenario, just because they have Billups. Especially if they begin to rebuild, they won't have any delusions over hold on to a 34 year old PG.

 

I would give a nut to see Kevin Martin and Carmelo Anthony on the SAME TEAM...


We would wipe the floor with the Lakers, no matter the PG...

More likely that Daryl sees Courtney Lee as the fifth starter like he was on the championship Magic team, with Aaron Brooks and Kyle Lowry splitting the PG duties.


Let me clarify, Kyle Brooks is the best PG in the NBA.


I don't think Daryl Morey is going to break up that combo, unless we get a complete stud. Billups is not that...

 

I expect if they are looking to rebuild they would want to do so through the draft etc....they might want Brooks or Lowry.......but they would probably want to unload Billups first, if they are blowing it up.

I am still staggered by LongTimeFan's JCDenton like statistical comparison between a 6 game playoff stretch and an entire season....

BUSTED !!!!


DD