Sources: Carmelo open to multiyear deal with Rockets

DaDakota · Aug 19, 2010

rockbox said:

That's stupid. All teams like the Rockets have to do is call Carmelo's agent and find out if it wasn't true.
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What you mean tampering?

Remember what BS Bosh's list was....so is this one.

DD

kokopuffs · Aug 19, 2010

"This message is hidden because DaDakota is on your ignore list."
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I'm reading through this thread and seeing the aforementioned message every other post, anyone have any idea why?

thekad · Aug 19, 2010

NO to Melo. He would only get in the way of Kobe Budinger's development.

DD

ABrooks0 · Aug 19, 2010

thekad said:

NO to Melo. He would only get in the way of Kobe Budinger's development.

DD
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Seriously who in their right mind would trade for Carmelo when we have Budinger, the next Kobe Bryant. It doesn't make sense?

J.R. · Aug 19, 2010

NOthing really new here but..ehh whatever

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=coon_larry&page=Melo-100819

Carmelo Anthony and Nuggets play waiting game

Denver Nuggets brass watched this summer with lumps in their throats as LeBron James and Chris Bosh left for greener pastures, wondering whether the same fate awaits them next year. Carmelo Anthony, a member of the same 2003 draft class as James, Bosh and Dwyane Wade, opted in 2006 to sign a longer extension than his colleagues -- locking himself in with the Nuggets until 2011. But 2011 is quickly approaching, with Anthony and the Nuggets growing increasingly restless.

The threat of players moving on when their time comes puts pressure on teams to act sooner to avoid the risk of being left nearly empty-handed like the Cleveland Cavaliers and Toronto Raptors. An extension for Anthony is on the table in Denver, but remains unsigned. If he intends to stay in Denver, the reasoning goes, why not lock in the financial security now? The clock is ticking, and every passing day leaves Nuggets management more and more nervous.

Rumor and innuendo continue to float around Anthony: He wants out; he wants to go to New York; he wants to form his own super team like Wade, James and Bosh did. But maybe the answer is more mundane? The Nuggets have a management void after the team parted ways with GM Mark Warkentien and assistant GM Rex Chapman earlier this month. Perhaps Anthony is simply waiting until new leadership is in place, so he can have a serious conversation about the team's future before committing to Denver for an additional three years?

It also would seem that even if the Nuggets are willing to entertain a trade, the chances are remote that they would do so before a new GM is hired.

Anthony signed a four-year extension in 2006 that took effect in 2007 and runs through the 2010-11 season (he has the option of extending for one additional season, through 2011-12). In contrast, James, Bosh and Wade elected to sign shorter extensions so as to become free agents this summer rather than next. The difference is potentially staggering -- this summer marks the last free-agent market under the purview of the current collective bargaining agreement. When Anthony becomes a free agent, it will be under the terms of the next agreement.

This could represent very bad timing on Anthony's part. The next agreement isn't expected to do the players any favors; the owners are seeking significant changes such as some form of hard cap and a dramatic decrease in the percentage of revenues paid to the players. Should Anthony become a free agent in 2011, his chances of being paid commensurate to the extension he turned down might be nil.

So unlike Cleveland with James, Toronto with Bosh and the Phoenix Suns with Amare Stoudemire, the Nuggets have a trump card. They can leave their extension offer on the table, refuse to entertain trade offers and wait Anthony out. It would then be up to Anthony to choose between a bigger payday and playing for the team of his choosing.

But such a strategy would be very risky, so the Nuggets could decide to mitigate their risk and deal Anthony this season -- which also avoids the chemistry issues that go with having an unhappy superstar on their roster.

Anthony reportedly has a list of teams to which he would prefer to be dealt, a list to which the Nuggets are under no obligation to cater. But for any team not on his list, the risk of trading for Anthony would be significant. His new team would be in the same situation as the Nuggets -- with an unhappy superstar who is poised to leave at the end of the season.

Any team that seriously entertains the notion of trading for Anthony would therefore want a guarantee that he would stay long term. Ideally, this means an extension will be in place when the deal happens. The collective bargaining agreement provides a mechanism for doing this -- the extend-and-trade. Like its cousin the sign-and-trade, an extend-and-trade allows the player to sign with his former team, quickly followed by a trade to a specific team. If the trade to the specified team does not follow within 48 hours, the signing is void.

Such a deal would be feasible only with a team on Anthony's approved list, as Anthony would have to willingly sign on the dotted line -- which he would do only if it resulted in a trade to a preferred destination. But once the move was completed, Anthony would be on a team of his choosing, his new team would have Anthony locked in to an extension and the Nuggets would get something in return for their departing superstar.

So who are the suitors for Anthony's services? Reports vary, but the New York Knicks are said to be Anthony's team of choice, with the New Jersey Nets, Orlando Magic, Houston Rockets and New Orleans Hornets also on the radar. But for any of these teams, an equitable deal would be difficult to construct. New York's ESPN Radio 1050 reported that the Knicks had offered a package including Danilo Gallinari and Eddy Curry -- a proposal in which the Nuggets were said to have zero interest.

But the final decision likely will be up to the Nuggets' next general manager. Former Suns executive David Griffin is considered a strong candidate to assume the vacant post. If he does, he will inherit a similar situation to the one he faced in Phoenix with Stoudemire. Stoudemire jilted the Suns this summer, signing a five-year, $100 million deal with the Knicks. But that was during the free-agent frenzy of 2010, not in the frigid climate that might befall the 2011 market. If presented with an opportunity for a do-over with the Nuggets, would Griffin choose to cut his losses and trade his superstar while he can? Or would he use his leverage to wait out his unhappy superstar?
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xiki · Aug 19, 2010

I have to believe Melo is high priority but with Nugs GM-less I suspect the hot iron must be wielded at the ownership level of Rox and Nugs.

Owner Alexander needs to get this thing rolling; the longer it drags the more entrenched Melo could become as "Knicks or no deal".

ASidd_1990 · Aug 19, 2010

DaDakota said:

What you mean tampering?

Remember what BS Bosh's list was....so is this one.

DD
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Bosh's list wasn't BS. Each team had that was on the list had something that could offer Bosh and he was legitimately interested in.

LA- play lap dog to Kobe. Ultimately the Lakers lost interest when the Raptors wanted Bynum and Odom in return, 2 key peices in their championship run. Bosh couldn't sign outright with them because they didn't have the cap space.

Chicago - They had capspace to sign 2 max level free agents outright. Ultimately, the Raptors balked at the idea when Chicago wasn't including Noah in the Sign and trade. Bosh would have gone here if LeBron or Wade had signed with the Bulls flat out anyways.

New York- Same as Chicago, but they didn't have a supporting cast already in place. Bosh would have gone their if LeBron or Wade signed their as well.

Miami- The place that he ultimately chose. You could argue that was the destination for him all along but that hasn't been proven and never will be. All this could have changed if Wade had gone to Chicago as the rumors had it.

All these teams had one thing in common, they all were brought up numerous times from insider sources. All had a more than likely shot at him. Houston was never in the consideration and was never reported by any legit insider, like Chris Mannix, as a viable option for Bosh.

One source said Bosh's decision hinges on where LeBron James signs.

"If LeBron decides to go to either New York or Chicago, I think that's where you'll see Chris land," the source told Ford. "If LeBron stays in Cleveland, I think the process is more wide open."
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5208043

The list of teams was not BS.

This situation is quite similar and different in a way. We have actually been mentioned as a viable option for Melo by a legit source. Chris Mannix is as legit as they come. There is no leverage for Denver or Melo to include Houston because NY will not have a chance to trade for him, they have no assets.

Also, Melo's decision doesn't rely on another free agent or player because he wants to go to a legit contender with a big man. Also, Melo can't risk not signing an extension because unlike Bosh's situation, the uncertain CBA looming might doom his potentional contract.

New York - same as Chicago, but they didn't have

ThaShark316_28 · Aug 19, 2010

It's kind of interesting how 3 of the 4 teams in that 3 team deal ALL got something to do with melo...think about it.

emjohn · Aug 19, 2010

So now the list might include Hornets (makes sense - Paul)?

NYK
NJN
HOU
ORL
NOH
CHI
[DAL]

The "Denver made up the list" crew..........nevermind. Play on.

tmoney1101 · Aug 19, 2010

emjohn said:

So now the list might include Hornets (makes sense - Paul)?

NYK
NJN
HOU
ORL
NOH
CHI
[DAL]

The "Denver made up the list" crew..........nevermind. Play on.
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Dallas...

TheBornLoser · Aug 19, 2010

Nuggets (or even Carmelo) just checking Carmelo's market value. Nothing much to get excited about really.

Rocket Guy · Aug 19, 2010

emjohn said:

So now the list might include Hornets (makes sense - Paul)?

NYK
NJN
HOU
ORL
NOH
CHI
[DAL]

The "Denver made up the list" crew..........nevermind. Play on.
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Tfor3 · Aug 19, 2010

wow, 50 pages.

amaru · Aug 19, 2010

Tfor3 said:

wow, 50 pages.
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people are desperate for star power lol

Hayden_SFC · Aug 19, 2010

If this Carmelo thing develops into something serious, hopefully it doesn't drag and drag for a long time. Primarily because I wonder if it would become a distraction to some of the players, whose names could potentially be involved in a deal. Brooks? Martin?

Yetti · Aug 19, 2010

Hayden_SFC said:

If this Carmelo thing develops into something serious, hopefully it doesn't drag and drag for a long time. Primarily because I wonder if it would become a distraction to some of the players, whose names could potentially be involved in a deal. Brooks? Martin?
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Broks & Martin will still be with the Houston Rockets.
As essential core players they should not be traded!!

Codman · Aug 19, 2010

I'll be surprised if this rumor has any legs. I really don't think Denver is willing to part with Melo, and after living there for many years, I don't think Melo really wants to leave Denver.

But, then again, a change of scenery can be good anyone. Hell, Larry Hughes contributed in the playoffs for the Bobcats under Larry Brown. :grin:

dreamshake09 · Aug 19, 2010

Is melo worth it?

Eddy Rivera of TrueHoop Magic's blog + stats:

" Is Anthony a top five player? No. Is Anthony an efficient player on offense? No. Anthony’s True Shooting Percentage and effective field goal percentage were at or below the league average last season. Granted, Anthony’s Offensive Rating was 110, which was above the league average. Also, if there’s a bright side to Anthony’s obscenely high usage rate (33.4 percent in 2010), it’s that he does an excellent job of taking care of the basketball. That being said, Anthony doesn’t compare favorably to his peers offensively. Yes, Anthony can score and if there’s one thing the Magic desperately need, it’s a dominant perimeter scorer, but he does so with nary an ounce of efficiency."

larsv8 · Aug 19, 2010

Sounds more like a bitter ex girl friend.

mfastx · Aug 19, 2010

Interesting article. But I still think we should try to get Melo, I mean what alpha dog on our team currently will win a 'ship? He would be the best on our team and we will have a better chance of winning a championship with him than without him.

I mean who thought Paul Pierce could win a title as an alpha dog before 2008?

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