Sources: Carmelo open to multiyear deal with Rockets

indeed. Like i said before he did a decent job on defending kobe in the playoffs couple years ago

 

True, but when you've got Brooks and Martin in the backcourt, anything is an upgrade defensively,

Also, that is why I would much rather have Martin included in a deal for Melo rather than Brooks. Lee is more than capable of manning the 2 spot, while I'm not to comfortable with Lowry starting. Also that gives us a balanced attack of a Brooks-Lee-Melo trio, mix in offense and defense.

Melo showed in the 2009 playoffs that he could guard the best of them in Kobe.

 

I see it like durvasa and DD. But I would pull the trigger if we don't have to break the bank.

 

Seriously? Melo is overrated?

No one is saying he is a top 3 player in the league but he is top 10 with out a doubt. He is the best pure scorer in the league aside from Durant.

No disrespect DD and this is not necessarily directed toward you, because I do tend to respect your opinion but...quite frankly, this is a joke. I am tired of sitting back reading assinine comments from people. Whoever thinks we are better off without acquiring Melo needs a reality check. Regardless of what we give up... in fair value, of course, we are a better team with Melo.

 

I still have it DVR'd.

Everytime my little brother mentions LeBron is better than Melo, I make him watch this video.

IMO, Carmelo is a better clutch player than LeBrick.

He would be a game changer in my books and will make the opposition pay for doubling Yao.

If Melo and Yao are double teamed, that's gonna leave someone open. Scola can hit open shots all day and asssuming we keep Brooks, he will average 20 open looks a game.

 

Where is the "Character" metric that DM obviously uses?

Where does that put Melo, if character is considered an asset?

We do know Morey says playing hard is a trait, right.

I wonder how they track that, and if it comes into play when considering folks like Melo, who are known to not play hard all the time, and have low character overall.

The more I think about it, the less I like it.......

I can respect your views on this Dreamsteam, but for me, he is a very good player, who does some amazing individual things.

But when I look for him helping the "TEAM" out or doing things off the ball, etc, either on offense or defense, they are just not there.

I think Melo still has a ways to go in maturing his game, in trusting his teamates, basically in learning how to win, or to lead a team.

Sometimes players take a while to get there, maybe he is ready and Adelman will be able to motivate him like Karl couldn't....I don't know....

Either way, I probably make this move, kind of like the Artest one, and hope for the best, but I don't like Melo, didn't like Artest, and would rather the team go to war with what they have.

DD

 

Sounds similar to T-Mac, before the drama, don't you think? lol

 

Carmelo's pick and roll defense and team defense is underrated.

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Trying to package assets and trade for a star mid-season is a good approach. I'm not saying that Melo would make us a worse team. I'm just not sold that he would make us a contender, or that he's the best choice looking long-term. I think his basketball skills are overstated, and his attitude is a turn-off. But maybe he changes in a different environment.

 

On the other hand, he would be an asset (assuming he signs an extension) if you want to trade for another player on that level down the line (Chris Paul, etc.).

 

Carmelo is nothing like T-Mac. He is bigger, stronger, not injury prone, and more dynamic scorer.

Also, ever since Melo has entered the league, he's made the playoffs. T-Mac can't say that. Also, Melo has led his team to the WCF, while T-Mac has never got past the 1st round.

 

The way I look at that though, is that with the new CBA likely to be more restrictive a "MAX PLAYER" now is a declining asset, and will more than likely be a lot harder to move under the new rules.

DD

 

No, that's not what I meant.

"If the Rockets want to pursue him, I'm not going to be a big grump about it and create threads on why I think its an awful idea."

I'm not going to complain about the Rockets pursing Carmelo and make a big stink about it if that's what they choose to do. I have some reservations about bringing him in, but I'm not saying its an awful idea.

 

Excellent point.

 

While Anthony isnt my favorite player, heres some things I think he brings which are understated.

1.) Notoriety - 3 national TV games sucks. The game euphoria is more exciting for me when we are showcased more, talked about more, etc. I feel like if there are any outside influences (refs, money, etc.) they all float towards the sexier team.

2.) Chris Paul - Having one player that is percieved as a superstar attracts others. Eventually Paul is going to New Orleans, I think Melo puts Houston on his list.

3.) FTs - Melo fits into the mold of acquiring guys who draw alot of fouls.

That said, I wouldnt want to give up Martin or Brooks to get him. Everything else is open game for me in acquiring Anthony.

Apologies, I misread that "not"

 

I can respect your views on this Dreamsteam, but for me, he is a very good player, who does some amazing individual things.

But when I look for him helping the "TEAM" out or doing things off the ball, etc, either on offense or defense, they are just not there.

I think Melo still has a ways to go in maturing his game, in trusting his teamates, basically in learning how to win, or to lead a team.

Sometimes players take a while to get there, maybe he is ready and Adelman will be able to motivate him like Karl couldn't....I don't know....

Either way, I probably make this move, kind of like the Artest one, and hope for the best, but I don't like Melo, didn't like Artest, and would rather the team go to war with what they have.
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You are correct in regards to maturity, but he is 26 and entering his prime. The longer he goes without a championship the hungrier he'll get, IMO.

I can't disagree with going to war with what we have. Although, most of us can agree that Morey is going to push for a trade by the deadline unless we are just blowing people out of the water. My point is, why wait to see whats available when many teams putting star players on the block is contigent upon so many variables. When those variable are pushed aside and a guy like Melo is available. We (Morey) should do whatever it takes to get the best deal possible. If it doesnt work out, we'll move on and be fine. If it does, great!

On another note, the kid is a winner. He has a killer instinct, IMO. As opposed to Lebron, who I dont think has that. It's hard to pass on a guy like this.

 

Why would he use Houston out of all teams to get a deal. This isn't even a free agency type situation. Naming Houston as a team is not going to help him get traded to the team of his choice

 

Hmmmm, not sure about my own conclusions at this point, but here are my thoughts.

1) if you go by stats and perceptions, adding Melo as a starter to our roster would make us worse, even if we got him for free. Here is my basis for this:
A) Highly inefficient
B) One dimensional (scores alot, but suffers greatly in nearly every other dept, defense, passing, ect.)
C) Would take minutes away from MORE efficient players.
D) Would demand the ball too much, thus taking shots away from our other scorers.

2) Stats dont say everything though. But the fact that he had/has a pretty competent group of players around him now, and Denver cant get over the hump, suggests that him coming here could result in the same.

3) Players CAN change. this COULD be the silver lining if he came to Houston. Fresh start, new coach, different players and environment. Yes, he could start playing more defense. He could take fewer, but better shots. He could become more team oriented in his approach. But would any of this happen? I wonder.

4) It would be nice to have a consistent scoring option that isnt injury prone. One thing that scares me much is that both Martin & Yao are prone to injury. Our two top scoring options. This would suggest that perhaps giving up Martin in a trade for Melo could be a good idea.

5) Signing him sure would tie up alot of future money (20M/Year??) that wouldnt be available for someone else or resigning current players, especially those whose rookie contracts are due to expire.

 

fwiw carmelo has missed nearly 13 games a year over the past 4 years.

 

aslo, I hope to see this again this year but in the finals and Melo wearing Rocket Red.

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