Sources: Carmelo open to multiyear deal with Rockets

You see him as a 1 dimensional scorer? First off he averaged 30 ppg in the first round of the playoffs and 28 during the season. He is an ELITE scorer.

He is also one of the best rebounding SFs in the league; not to mention his post game will likely compliment Yao pretty well. He is a freaking beast.

I'm not going to lie and say he is a stalwart defender, but he has ALL of the physical tools necessary to do so. He will defend if he wants to win.

Did I mention, he IS a winner?

We're going to have to give up one of our scorers to get him, either Brooks or Martin. I say, peace Brooks.

 

If we do get Melo, I want him to tag along

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Utah hates him, thats good enough for me. He will fit right in.

 

come on people. this is a no brainer. its what morey made the ariza deal for. get some balls.

 

http://network.yardbarker.com/NBA/article_external/Logical_Anthony_Trade_Scenarios_Part_I/3076236

I'm on my phone and can't figure out how to put the whole article on here so if someone could do it that would be great

 

As Carmelo Anthony’s departure from Denver seems eminent, at least in the eyes of New York fans and ESPN, it might be time to start evaluating what the Nuggets could get in return if they are forced to trade him before he signs the extension.

Nuggets fans may see Anthony’s departure as the end of hope, but if the team plays its cards right trading the franchise’s greatest player could be more of an end of era. Denver won’t get a Dwight Howard or even a Derrick Rose in return, but it could get a package similar to what the Minnesota Timberwolves got when they traded Kevin Garnett (Ryan Gomes, Al Jefferson, Sebastian Telfair, future 1st and Theo Ratliff’s expiring contract).

Also, it would bring a different type of squad to Denver, unlike the squad that the Nuggets have now that depends more on their talent than their heart. With the idea Denver may be seeking in return is help with their beat up frontcourt and some depth. Here are five trade scenarios (in alphabetic order) worth looking at:


Gerald Wallace
CHARLOTTE:Carmelo Anthony for Gerald Wallace, Nazr Mohammed, Gerald Henderson and Charlotte’s 2012 first pick (protected).
LAST TIME THE TWO TEAMS TRADED: 2008, Denver trades pick (Alexis Ajinca) to Charlotte.
WHY IT WORKS FOR CHARLOTTE: While Anthony would doubtfully sign an extension with the Bobcats, he would give Charlotte fans a reason to watch the team that had the ninth fewest attendance. Also it might be enticing to Michael Jordan to have a superstar like Anthony on his team and the Bobcats would have a team similar to the squad that Larry Brown coached when his Allen Iverson-lead team went to the 2001 NBA Finals.
WHY IT WORKS FOR DENVER: Wallace isn’t a replacement for Anthony, but he had an All-Star like season last year and played his best season, not to mention he led all small forwards in rebounds due to his hustle and heart. He is also one of the best perimeter defenders in the NBA, which is a reason why it would work well for the Nuggets, a team with plenty of scorers on the team but not enough defenders. Mohammed is a solid veteran with an expiring contract and Gerald Henderson had a terrible opening season but still has potential.
STARTING LINEUP: C-Nene, PF-Al Harrington, SF-Gerald Wallace, SG-Arron Afflalo, PG-Chauncey Billups
BENCH: Nazr Mohammed, Chris Andersen, Gerald Henderson, JR Smith, Ty Lawson

CHICAGO: Carmelo Anthony for Loul Deng, Taj Gibson, James Johnson and two first round picks (Chicago’s and Charlotte’s 2011 picks)
LAST TIME THE TWO TEAMS TRADED: Denver acquires JR Smith for Howard Eisley and two second round picks in 2008.
WHY IT WORKS FOR CHICAGO: With Anthony the Bulls would be at or better than the Heat or Magic squad and a lineup of Rose, Anthony, Carlos Boozer and Joakim Noah would be the best lineup the Bulls have had since the Jordan days.
WHY IT WORKS FOR DENVER: While Deng does have a unfriendly contract ($51.351/4 years), he is a solid addition to a playoff team. He can score, defend and rebound and has a high basketball IQ. Gibson showed a lot of potential after his first year in the NBA and could be a consistent starter in the League. Johnson didn’t show a lot during his first year but has the intelligence to be a solid role player in the NBA. The Bulls also own the Charlotte pick next year and can give the Nuggets a package of picks.
STARTING LINEUP: C-Nene, PF-Taj Gibson, SF-Loul Deng, SG-Arron Afflalo, PG-Chauncey Billups
BENCH: Chris Andersen, Al Harrington, JR Smith, Ty Lawson


Could Tayshaun Prince and Rip Hamilton make the Nuggets competitive?
DETROIT: Carmelo Anthony, Kenyon Martin, JR Smith, Renaldo Balkman for Ben Gordon, Rip Hamilton, Tayshaun Prince, Jonas Jerekbo, Jason Maxiell, Greg Monroe and first round pick.
LAST TIME THE TWO TEAMS TRADED: Detroit traded Arron Afflalo and Walter Sharpe for Denver’s second-round pick.
WHY IT WORKS FOR DETROIT: The addition of Anthony, Martin and Smith would make the Pistons competitive and if it doesn’t work out they freed up some cap room by dealing Maxiell and Hamilton.
WHY IT WORKS FOR DENVER: While it is doubtful the Nuggets would go this route, but they would have a deep versatile squad that would still compete with the addition of Hamilton, Prince and Gordon. They also add two young players with potential in Monroe and Jerekbo. However, they also would add Hamilton’s contract ($37.95/3 years), Maxiell’s ($15 million/3 years) and Gordon’s ($48 million/4 years), but the trade would give the Nuggets a group of smart, hard working players that the fans could root for.
STARTING LINEUP: C-Nene, PF-Al Harrington, SF-Tayshaun Prince, SG-Rip Hamilton, PG-Chauncey Billups
BENCH: Chris Andersen, Jason Maxiell, Jonas Jerekbo, Greg Monroe, Arron Afflalo, Ben Gordon, Ty Lawson

HOUSTON: Carmelo Anthony, JR Smith Renaldo Balkman for Kevin Martin, Shane Battier, Patrick Patterson, Chase Budinger, Jordan Hill, Houston’s 2011 first round pick and New York’s 2012 first round pick.
LAST TIME THE TWO TEAMS TRADED: Rockets traded James White for the draft rights to Axel Hervelle.
WHY IT WORKS FOR HOUSTON: The Rockets are one of the few teams that Carmelo Anthony is rumored to be willing to play for and he’d give the Rockets a bigger, healthier version of the Tracy McGrady they had in the past. They also can get a younger, cheaper version of Martin in Smith and Anthony gets to play with a legit big man in Yao Ming – if he is healthy.
WHY IT WORKS FOR DENVER: While it isn’t the most promising group that the Nuggets could get, but Patterson, Budinger and Hill all have potential to be good players. Battier is a like a coach on the floor and Martin could come off the bench and give the team a spark similar to Smith.
STARTING LINEUP: C-Nene, PF-Jordan Hill, SF-Shane Battier, SG-Arron Afflalo, PG-Chauncey Billups
BENCH: Chris Andersen, Patrick Patterson, Al Harrington, Chase Budinger, Kevin Martin, Ty Lawson

LA CLIPPERS: Carmelo Anthony for Al-Farouq Aminu, Eric Gordon and Chris Kaman
LAST TIME THE TWO TEAMS TRADED: Nuggets traded Cheik Samb to the Clippers for cash.
WHY IT WORKS FOR THE CLIPPER: A team of Baron Davis, Anthony and Blake Griffin could make the Clippers competitive in the Western Conference. It would also open up some playing time for Los Angeles’s promising young big man DeAndre Jordan and Anthony would give fans a reason to come out and watch the other Los Angeles team play (the Clippers had the 11th worst attendance last season).
WHY IT WORKS FOR THE NUGGETS: They get a duo of young players in Gordon and Aminu. Gordon’s favorite player growing up was Billups and he would thrive playing next to his hero. Aminu has potential and Kaman gives the team the center it has been missing since trading Marcus Camby.
STARTING LINEUP: C-Chris Kaman, PF-Nene, SF-Al-Farouq Aminu, SG-Eric Gordon, PG-Chauncey Billups
BENCH: Chris Andersen, Al Harrington, Arron Afflalo, JR Smith, Ty Lawson

It's a poll and Houston is winning with 29% of the vote!

 

he'll put a lot of points but he'll need to dominate the ball alot to do it. his fg% isnt that high, hes not a 3 point threat, which means he misses alot inside for a post player. his rebounds is ok i guess, but not high enough like say shawn marion when he was in phoenix or gerald wallace.

but maybe im wrong too and hed end up being great for us. i think i just never liked his game. i like small forwards to do alot of things well enough and be great at defense. kevin martin at sg i dont mind cos i think he's a legit 3 point threat and he plays off the ball more ala ray allen.

id prefer gerald wallace, danny granger type to fit in our offense.

 

Yeah .458 field Goal percentage shooting for 28 points a game is real high. Higher than Kobe Bryant and only a few points below Bryant in three point percentage to Kobes 27 points a game. Not seeing where you are coming from at all.

 

i dont understand why im not enthused abt carmelo and certain players too.
i trust our gm to do whats right for the team though. if morey wants him, i hope we get him

 

If I am DM I am thinking long term, if by any chance we land Melo (IT IS STILL A LONG HOT) I am 90% sure we (or the team that lands him) will land CP3

When???? don´t know, trade deadline or after it MAYBE...

And this factor is something that people don´t mention, we, NY and NJN should push hard for Melo simply because he is the guy that will make you land CP3 (demanding a trade, or waiting for his contract to expire), which is a big plus to his production on the court

And this is why, for me, and what I think GOD MOREY is thinking, is to keep at any costs Martin

Why??? Because he is better then AB (but even if he disagrees like some people do in this forum), we need him to trade for CP3 later when the opportunity comes (because of his salary), that is why thinking about the near future is important, and Morey is always ahead, and he knows this of course so nothing new to him....

That trade that was said on the radio, that can be (maybe not) true, I would make a little adjustment, forget that 2nd round to us, and instead of giving up Martin, we would give up Jeffries and the NYK pick plus the rights to swap draft pick

I don´t know if the salaries would match (because between Martin and Jeffries there is a 4 Million difference), but we can put in some cash or Johnson, Taylor or even Harris, I don´t know, just do everything to avoid losing Martin productivity and Specially his contract (and I think Denver would accept simply because it is a shorter contract (expiring), and possibly 2 lotto picks for Martin).

Once again these are assumptions based on a LOOOONG SHOT named Melo, but HEY we got the wizard, everything can happen....

PeAcE

 

Melo has a bad rep around some people, but as he showed in 2009, with good leadership (ie Chauncey Billups), he can take a team to deep into the playoffs. The thing is, if Melo does land on the Rockets, who's going to be the Billups on our team?

 

Yao, Scola, maybe Battier if he is kept.

 

Who is this fool and what is this sad little website? Does he honestly think a 21-25 PPG scorer in Martin would be coming off the bench in a Anthony-less Nugs squad?

DO NOT READ

 

Other than the part of Martin being benched, that trade scenario is pretty decent, assuming Melo agrees to an extension. Plus, its a poll and we are in front!

 

I don't Morey has to give up all that much. NJ and NY don't really have that much to give and Orlando doesn't really either.

Houston has a lot of assets and can probably be ok giving up just Martin and Battier. Throw in a pick from NY and wham bam who's going to offer up more than that?

Denver rejects that they won't get anything better from NJ, NY, or Orlando and they risk having Anthony walk for nothing.

They are not in a good negoiating position.

 

If we were to bring Paul in too, I think Brooks would be the centerpiece of that deal, not Martin. With Collison traded away, they would be looking for a PG to replace him. IF we were able to nab Melo, I'd say Martin would be the centerpiece of that deal. We would have to wait until AT LEAST next offseason for a Paul deal IF it were to happen. Brooks would get a significant raise, and make it much easier to make salaries match in a trade.

 

If I'm Denver, I'd prefer cheap, talented players as opposed to Martin's big contract.

If the Nets start with a package including Favors, that will be tough to compete with.

 

And would make him a BYC player. You're not going to sign Brooks and trade him away soon thereafter.

 

I hope this isn't one of those "im juss playin wicha fans..." like Bosh did.

 

I think so.

Same direction and everything. Already put out NY. then a day later adds us to the mix (i.e., Bosh, same time table and everything) for more leverage.

These stars want to play together and it looks like Paul, Melo and Amare will be the next trio.