Sources: Carmelo open to multiyear deal with Rockets

The r****d train has left the station.

 

He's not a chucker. He goes to the basket more than he takes jump shots. I'm 98% sure your judging because of his past issues. He's matured and he's a incredible player.

Get R' done Morey.

 

At 46% shooting, 83% at the line, only taking 180 plus threes in a season (out of 1500 shot attempts)...."CHUCK" all day he can. Nobody shoots at the efficiency at a superstar level as Carmelo does.

Moe

 

I think rockets should trade brooks as denver's billup is getting old and if they lose melo, they will be in rebuilding mode. Might as well start with a starter pg like brooks and hell, i'd even take billup's contract if it matchs with melo as we'll be instant contenders. Not willing to give up brooks and another starter tho.

billup
martin
melo
scola
yao

 

I seriously think you are the worst poster on Cfans and it's too bad you spend all your time on here and post in every single thread.

 

Kobe Bryant is a chucker, too. It's true.

 

Melo is the best offensive player now.

 

eg. Chris Bosh ?

 

There is no such thing as Tmac 2.0, there will never be another Tmac. ever.

 

Good article dissecting Melo as a player

Last November, with the Nuggets starting the season on a tear behind Melo’s scoring, there were talks of him joining the games elite, that Lebron/Kobe/Wade like stratosphere. Even the phrase”MVP” was being thrown around on occasion. Premature and idiotic as those talks were – and indeed, months December through April did well to silence them – one can’t deny that as far as marketing and reputation go, Anthony is a full-blown superstar.

Of course, whether he actually is on that level is another question. The “is Melo an elite player?” debate was widely discussed throughout the blogosphere over the past few weeks. (We miss you, NBA. Please grab this stupid summer thing by the nose and banish it forever). Statistical master wizard (it’s when you’re too masterful to be just a wizard, but too wizardy to be just a master) Tom Haberstroh pointed out over at ESPN Insider that Melo’s greatest skill – scoring the basketball – is overblown because of his less-than-stellar efficiency at doing so.

“Let’s first talk about Anthony’s shot volume. It’s not exactly a secret that ‘Melo likes to shoot the rock, but his propensity to launch shots may raise some eyebrows. This past season, no player in the NBA took more shots per minute than Anthony — not Kobe, not LeBron, not even scoring champ Kevin Durant.

It may seem obvious that a player worthy of 20 shots per game would have a healthy conversion rate. But in Anthony’s case, that’s far from the truth. Anthony, in reality, had a below-average field goal percentage (.458) this past season — and his career percentage (.459) is no different. (The league average is .463.)

The sharp readers out there will point out that traditional field goal percentage doesn’t reflect Anthony’s shooting ability, since he launches a healthy dose of 3-pointers, which obviously count more on the scoreboard. That’s true. But if you’ve been paying attention, you know Anthony is not a good shooter from beyond the arc, so that doesn’t help his case. As a career .308 percent 3-point shooter, his shot from downtown ranks far below the norm (the average small forward shot .349 last season; Melo shot .316) and any progress he seemingly made in 2008-09, when he shot a career-high .371, disappeared. Even if we incorporate the added point bonus of a 3-pointer, the Syracuse product’s shooting percentages are, at best, average.”

The should-be-writing-much-more-often Nick Flynt then added a twist of his own, dispelling the notion that Melo is such a deadly scorer by virtue of his jumpshot:

“While I was researching this information, it came to my attention that Carmelo is known as a jumpshooter (and credited with being very good from mid-range). I assumed this to be true, mostly from anecdotal evidence. According to hoopdata.com, Carmelo Anthony actually had the 2nd most attempts at the rim of any player last season (outdone only by rookie Tyreke Evans). This is the guy known to not have the “same drive as D-Wade,” as well as being called soft, and he gets to the rim more than anyone in the league (other than one great rookie) and is one of the best rebounders at his position.

The mid-range shooter moniker isn’t totally incorrect, however, as he shot the most attempts at 16-23 feet of all swingmen (same parameters as used earlier), making just above league average at 40%. He also shot the 4th most attempts from 10-15 feet of swingmen with those same parameters.”

Finally, the one and only Zach Harper chose to analyze Melo’s game like only he can, somehow simultaneously comparing him to Kevin Durant and to dance club trilogy Step Up:

“Aside from a PER, offensive rating and win shares, the numbers are pretty even all across the board. Durant’s TS% is also much higher than Carmelo’s but considering Durant just put together a historic season at the free throw line, I don’t think you can really use that against Anthony all that much. Win shares and offensive rating are fairly damning but I still don’t believe that it disproves Carmelo being an elite player in this league.

Look to the fourth quarter of the last three seasons and you’ll see that Anthony has been far superior to Durant in clutch scoring. Yes, Durant is still so young and doing all of this at the equivalent of being a NBA toddler but it doesn’t change the fact that Carmelo bests him in a very important area despite taking a backseat to the current popular opinion of who is better between the two.”

All three make very valid points. Melo’s value as a player comes from scoring the ball first, second and third. He is an above-average rebounder for his position, a below-average defender, and an around-average ball handler and creator, depending on the night.

But he is indeed an elite scorer.

Despite the unimpressive efficiency numbers and the undeniably accurate label of a “volume shooter,” Melo possesses offensive versatility that very few players have, from driving to shooting to posting up. And with the game on the line, and that big of an arsenal, there are very few other players, if any at all, that you would like shooting the rock.

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So he is a good scorer, but he is also a chucker and not all that efficient....still again, I would go get him at the right price.

DD

 

I hope if we get him, we resort to somewhat of a triangle offense. He's the best player right now in the L for a triangle offense. Yao's a close 2nd, but probably 3rd with his low post abilities.

 

Maggette does not even COMPARE to Melo.

Maggette plays less D than Melo and they make very similar salaries (Mags gets near Max which is an absolute joke).

Please explain how Melo isn't efficient the guy gets to the line 10+ times a game and shoots 85%+.

You have no clue what you are talking about, you let your impressions of players cloud your reasonable thought.

 

I'm hoping and praying that at no point is Melo ever a Houston Rocket. I like my team to much to want to soil it with people like Carmello.

 

Melo is the best offensive player right now, period.

 

my thoughts:

if Melo is traded w/ a contract extension you make the move for Melo and no one but Yao is untouchable



if Melo is traded w/o the extension you make the move but the list of untouchables grows to:

Brooks/Lowry (doubt Denver would want them anyway since they are also stacked at PG)
Scola
Yao



but I still will find it hard to believe it will happen its not from Melo or his agents its "sources" we dont even know if those sources are coming from the Nuggets Camp or Melo's Camp...


Nuggets4 -- could you shed any light on this?

 

Yes, that is pretty clear....lol....people don't like contrary opinions.....

I am not enamored with Melo, but why not...if you can get him for the right price, go for it.

To me he is like Amare, a good player who is highly overated in the press as a team winner.

DD

 

You'd think Carmelo would just go buy an ipad if he wanted one that bad.

 

From a salary dumping POV the Nuggets need to include Billups in order to cut as much salary as they can if they're aiming to eventually get under the LT threshold.

 

Agreed. Does Melo share the same agent with Yao? I remember Melo attended Yao's charity game in China a couple years age.

 

I'm down with that.

Billups/Lowry
Martin/Lee or JT
Melo/Bud (hopefully)
Scola/Patterson (hopefully)
Yao/Miller

WCF. Book it.